[Titanites]

The problem with the theology that works save is that then Jesus didn't have to die.

That is an invented conflict of those who do not trust in the Scriptures.

2 Peter 1:1-12 Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, as His divine power has given to us all things that [pertain] to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption [that is] in the world through lust. But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. For if these things are yours and abound, [you will be] neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins. Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. For this reason I will not be negligent to remind you always of these things, though you know and are established in the present truth.

No, the things in the above paragraph do not come automatically with faith. It is not faith alone or we would not need to be reminded that we must "do these things" to make our "election sure".

For if you do these things you will not stumble.

[NKP_Vet]

“That is an invented conflict of those who do not trust in the Scriptures”

How so? The early church fathers were ALL CATHOLIC, and they compiled the New Testament and decided what was divinely inspired and what was not. Not the Jimmy Swaggart crowd.

“To be deep in history is to cease to he protestant”
~ Blessed Cardinal John Henry Newman
Famous Anglican convert to Catholicism

[metmom]

mm:The problem with the theology that works save is that then Jesus didn't have to die.

Titanites: That is an invented conflict of those who do not trust in the Scriptures.

No, it's actually Holy Spirit inspired Scripture written by Paul.

Galatians 2:21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.