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To: justice14
I attended a similar nondenominal service yesterday. Except that the music worship leader has a degree in theological studies. The lead teaching pastor's favorite author is a Calvinist and the pastor quoted Martin Luther yesterday.

Church is a weekly meeting of like minded believers plus those who will eventually answer God's call as well as those who will refuse the call. Edification and fellowship are the goals.

Worship is what takes place in your heart the other 166 hours of the week.

15 posted on 06/11/2012 7:09:09 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Exactly and good post.


16 posted on 06/11/2012 7:13:19 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: gov_bean_ counter
..............fellowship are the goals.

I think you qualified what you meant and I am just responding to my own “hot button”. I don't think fellowship is the goal, it is a by product of the goal of being one.

Eph 4:12 Their responsibility is to equip God's people to do His work and build up the church, the body of Christ.

Eph 4:13 This will continue until we all come to such unity in our faith and knowledge of God's Son that we will be mature in the Lord, measuring up to the full and complete standard of Christ. .

We had a new pastor at church and my men's group told me how the prior Sunday eve, the pastor dressed up Doris Day and sung a song. Some of the men asserted they did not get up on stage with him. One thought nothing of it that the pastor had asked to borrow his wife's shoes.

I emailed the pastor and asked if he had really dressed in drag and how that honored God. After much pressing in, the response I got was “fellowship”, that was truly the purpose and goal of the church in his mind.

The most amazing part of this is that no other man stood up to this. If men in a local church won't stand up to this, what will they stand up to? The answer is very scary.

27 posted on 06/11/2012 8:00:26 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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