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To: Colofornian
You know, if Obama declared tomorrow that he was Messiah II and was the "new" savior on the block...I don't think we'd hear from you & other FREEPERS that we need to "respect" Obama's "religious freedoms" about how he thinks he is "Messiah II."

You've worked religious freedom into a frenzy in order to argue your point - and it's ridiculous. Respecting religious freedom has nothing to do with Obama declaring himself a Messiah while occupying the oval office. Are we discussing cults, politics or political cults?

As far as Rev. Wright goes, he's no Rev. IMO, but he has a right to spew his hatred, just as I have a right to refute his 'gospel'.

If Romney said he would not have a Muslim in his cabinet - good on him! Islam is a political ideology cloaked in religion. It is not compatible with our Constitutional Republic as it ignores the laws of our land and instead, seeks to impose its own. That's not hypocrisy, that's calling it like it is and besides, we're at war with Islam, no matter how much the liberal talking heads would like you to believe it's a war against 'terrorism'. Islam is terrorism.

As far as your Mormon and Evangelical facts go, are you suggesting that exit polls from the Mormon community are indicative of the thoughts and actions of posters on FR? If I'm reading you correctly, you would like them to 'sit out' the electoral process until such a time that their ideal candidate is running because until then, they're hypocrites. Just wow. .

300 posted on 06/12/2012 10:48:53 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: liberalh8ter
Islam mormonism is a political ideology cloaked in religion.

“What the world calls ‘Mormonism’ will rule every nation...God has decreed it, and his own right arm will accomplish it. This will make the heathen rage.”

(Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 53)

We will establish our religion with the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood, from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. I will be to this generation a 2nd Muhammad, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Al-Qur’an or the sword.’ So shall it be with us — ‘Joseph Smith or the sword!’

(History of the Church, Vol. 3, p. 167)

302 posted on 06/12/2012 11:31:34 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: liberalh8ter
....are you suggesting that exit polls from the Mormon community are indicative of the thoughts and actions of posters on FR?

No.

What I am suggesting is that while some FREEPERs get riled over what they perceive as either...
...a lack of respect for others religious traditions in a nation of religious freedoms...
...and/or "religious bigotry" -- whereby people vote ONLY or PRIMARILY based upon the other-worldly worldviews of a candidate...
...they don't apply that same provocation toward Mormons when they vote ONLY or PRIMARILY based upon the other-worldly worldviews of a candidate (Romney)...

Either they should...
...stay silent on BOTH counts...
...or, if they're going to get riled re: comments-about-voting that include Romney's Mormonism, then they may want to exercise some consistency and comment negatively upon Mormons who vote for Romney ONLY or PRIMARILY due to his Mormonism.

Nothin' wrong with encouraging consistency, is there?

If I'm reading you correctly, you would like them to 'sit out' the electoral process until such a time that their ideal candidate is running because until then, they're hypocrites.

No... I just got done saying in #295: Me? I think Mormon voters could use any measuring tool they wished re: voting

Why would I -- who exercise my faith beliefs and inject that in my voting decisions -- deny that for Mormons?

304 posted on 06/12/2012 11:41:34 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: liberalh8ter; Colofornian; svcw; Tennessee Nana
Your statement: Islam is a political ideology cloaked in religion. It is not compatible with our Constitutional Republic as it ignores the laws of our land and instead, seeks to impose its own.

Mormonism is not compatible with Christianity as it ignores the Christian beliefs of centuries after Joseph Smith named them "false and corrupt". Mormonism is a cult ideology cloaked in religion.

As far as your Mormon and Evangelical facts go, are you suggesting that exit polls from the Mormon community are indicative of the thoughts and actions of posters on FR?

Are you suggesting that YOU can read the thoughts and actions of posters on FR? Just WOW!

305 posted on 06/12/2012 11:57:35 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: liberalh8ter; greyfoxx39
If Romney said he would not have a Muslim in his cabinet - good on him! Islam is a political ideology cloaked in religion. It is not compatible with our Constitutional Republic as it ignores the laws of our land and instead, seeks to impose its own. That's not hypocrisy, that's calling it like it is and besides, we're at war with Islam, no matter how much the liberal talking heads would like you to believe it's a war against 'terrorism'.

After the Lds declared a statement on polygamy in 1890, it went on to secretly solemnize about 250 or more additional plural marriages 'tween 1890 - 1910 (Source: See B. Carmon Hardy's A Solemn Covenant list in his appendix for Who's Who)

One of those was B.H. Roberts...who took a third wife around 1893. Utah then elected Roberts to represent their new state in 1898. Congress rejected Roberts; sent him back home -- because -- as you mentioned above w/regard to Muslims...Mormons in the 1890s (& prior) "ignored the laws of our land" re: monogamy vs. polygamy.

So, I take it then -- as we look back on history & also apply consistent applications -- that you retro-actively agreed with Congress' shutting out this Mormon Congressman from office back in 1898 re: B.H. Roberts?

Also...since EVERY Mormon "prophet" up until 1945 was a polygamist, I would also take it that as long as Mormonism was still embracing polygamy, you would agree that no Mormon was "worthy" to hold any Cabinet post...again because, via polygamy, they were "igoring the laws of our land"(?) IOW, you would agree that no Mormon was worthy of a Cabinet position thru 1944?

Are we discussing cults, politics or political cults?

Given these quotes of Mormon leaders, where has Mormonism backed off theocratical leanings within politics? (I don't see it; where -- and why -- do you de-link the two when Mormon leaders have not?)

See See chart here @ post#5

315 posted on 06/12/2012 12:48:12 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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