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To: Scoutmaster

I never called you that Scoutmaster. Instead I have no problem whatsoever in talking the truth about what heppened there. Yes, they had guns. They knew that the Carthage Grays were out for their blood and would most likely attack them...Governor’s pledge for safety or no...and they did...and they defended themselves and died doing so.


121 posted on 06/09/2012 10:57:48 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Additional history from a variety of sources:


William Law was a member of the first presidency and a close associate of Joseph Smith.

Law began to suspect Smith of making improper proposals to his wife Jane. When he confronted her about his suspicions, she admitted that Smith had “asked her to give him half her love; she was at liberty to keep the other half for her husband.” As a result, Law broke with Smith and left the church. On June 7, 1944, Law and several associates published the first edition of a newspaper called the Nauvoo Expositor. The paper contained the accusation that Smith and other church leaders were practicing polygamy (spiritual wifery).

An affidavit by Austin Cowles was published which accused Smith of secretly teaching “the doctrine of a plurality of wives, or marrying virgins; that “David and Solomon had many wives, yet in this they sinned not save in the matter of Uriah.” The paper threatened to publish additional evidence that would document the polygamous activities of Smith and other church leaders.

Smith had been continuously denying his involvement with polygamy. His final public denial came just a few months before his death in 1844 when, speaking to a group of loyal followers, he protested the unjust accusation of having multiple wives when he had only one (History of the Church, 6:411). Despite his emphatic declaration of innocence, Smith had at least thirty-three plural wives at the time of the speech (Todd Compton, In Sacred Loneliness 4-7).

Threatened with exposure, Smith used his position as Mayor to urge destruction of the press. The Nauvoo City Council complied: “The Council passed an ordinance declaring the Nauvoo Expositor a nuisance, and also issued an order to me to abate the said nuisance. I immediately ordered the Marshal to destroy it without delay.... About 8 p.m., the Marshal returned and reported that he had removed the press, type, printed paper, and fixtures into the street, and destroyed them” (History of the Church, vol. 6, p.432).

Smith was arrested for the illegal destruction of private property. While he was being held in the Carthage , Illinois jail a mob stormed the building and Smith was murdered.


In 1832, Smith was tarred and feathered in Kirtland for sexual indiscretions with 15-year old Nancy Marinda Johnson. Further, he began operating a bank without obtaining a state banking charter (Kirtland Safety Bank) and he ended up leaving Kirtland in the dead of night after stealing all of the bank’s remaining funds in 1838. Additionally, the Mormons still owned slaves in Ohio, and because of this they were visited in 1836 by abolitionist agents of the US government who reminded them that slavery was ONLY allowed south of the Mason Dixon, and not in Ohio.

Meanwhile, between 1832 and 1838, the advance contingent of Missouri Mormons began stealing land and property from settlers who had arrived in and settled Missouri prior to the arrival of the Mormons in 1831. And, between 1831 and 1838 this conflict eventually turned into a full-fledged war, which is known today as the “Missouri War”.

1838, Joseph Smith was arrested for Treason against the United States

People where sick of this junk:

between 1842 and 1844, he:

a. Proclaimed himself “King of Zion”, which he claimed held dominion over the United States

b. Appointed Brigham Young as the new Mormon “President of the United States”

c. Appointed other church leaders in his secret “Council of Fifty” as Governors of the various states and territories

d. Began forming his “Nauvoo Legion”, which he claimed would be a “100,000 man militia” to be used to overthrow the US Government with military force (this is where all of the resurgent Mormon militias of the 80’s and 90’s came from, like the Viper Militia and the Michigan Militia)

e. Inducted himself into the US military as “Lieutenant General” even though he had no prior military experience, and began wearing a fake military uniform

f. Began legitimizing polygamy by formally announcing his “doctrine of polygamy”

g. Formally announced his “Doctrine of the Constitution Versus the Law”, which taught that Mormonism was the law of the land, which superseded America Law (same concept as “Sharia Law” of Islam, which is where he also borrowed his newly “legitimized” version of Polygamy from)

h. Formally created his new “Melchizedek Priesthood”, which made all Mormons superior to “Christians” and made them “not-subject” to the man-made Judeo-Christian laws of America, or the Laws of Moses (10-commandements). Smith’s new superior priesthood (superior to the older “Aaronic Priesthood”), made all Mormon males “man-Gods” in their own right who now “held the keys” to circumvent the Christian laws of Moses and the Judeo-Christian laws of America

i. Announced he would run for President of the United States as a means of gaining “legitimate” control of the Federal Government

j. Formed a Masonic lodge in Nauvoo, had all of the members of the Mormon religion’s hierarchy become Freemasons and then stole all of the rights, rituals, annointings and symbolism of the Freemasons, bastardized it and made them the rights, rituals, annointings and symbolism of his Mormon religion, which prior to Smith theft of Freemasonry didn’t have such a body of ritualism.


125 posted on 06/09/2012 11:15:34 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Jeff Head
I never called you that Scoutmaster.

No, Jeff, you never called me any of those things.

You remained silent in the thread as did others as I was called those things.

You apologized for that a few weeks later and I appreciate it.

137 posted on 06/09/2012 2:02:36 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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