Vatican Warns Against Errors in Mercy Nun's 2006 Book on Sexual Ethics

Catholic News Service ^ | 6/4/12 | Nancy Frazier O'Brien

[marshmallow]

The Mercy Sisters taught me, many years ago, but looked nothing like this. They're a total train wreck, these days. The LCWR Inquisition can't come soon enough.

[Biggirl]

Look for a BIG house cleaning to come to that order.

[bigbob]

That’s a man, baby!

[sayuncledave]

I can’t help it, this once. Is that Leo Sayer, or Robert Hegyes? ;)

[cloudmountain]

Look for a BIG house cleaning to come to that order.

That house deserves it. They know it and must not care.
What happened to that vow all sisters/nuns take: obedience?

[marshmallow]

Nice ‘fro, aint it?

[randog]

Sister Farley has been no stranger to controversy during her career as a Catholic theologian.

Someone needs to tell Sis that she's gay and she's made a serious career mistake.

[Kirkwood]

Bob Ross!

[massmike]

Perhaps she should consider a move to the Unitarian church.....

[stuartcr]

Why would anyone listen to a Catholic clergy member about anything that has to do with sex and relationships?

[Jeff Chandler]

Why would anyone listen to a Catholic clergy member about anything that has to do with sex and relationships?

That depends on the answers to four questions:

1. Do you believe that truth is universal?
2. Do you believe that accumulated knowledge and wisdom can be transmitted to future generations, or do you feel that it is exclusively experiential--that every human being is completely unique and everything man has learned about human nature over thousands of years cannot possibly apply to an individual circumstance today?
3. Is the particular clergyman sufficiently educated in the universal truths and accumulated knowledge and wisdom transmitted though the ages?
4. Does the particular clergyman believe in the universal truths and accumulated knowledge and wisdom transmitted though the ages and attempt to live by them, or does he either believe that recent ideological deviations have, by their very modernity and their cover of scientific sanction superseded them, or believe in them yet decide to follow his own will?

[stuartcr]

Would you seek marital or sexual guidance/advice from someone that is celibate?

[Iscool]

Why would anyone listen to a Catholic clergy member about anything that has to do with sex and relationships?

They seem to be well versed and experienced in sex and relationships...Just not the hetero kind...

[Jeff Chandler]

Read post #11.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

-—Sister Farley, who taught at Yale University Divinity School from 1971 to 2000-—

Guilty.

[stuartcr]

My answers to #11;
No
Both
No
No

Read post #12

[marshmallow]

Would you seek marital or sexual guidance/advice from someone that is celibate?

Certainly. I'd recommend it.

Advice on moral issues is not like learning plumbing or car mechanics. It's not a question of knowing where the bolts and brackets go in order to make something function.

Morality is not like that. It's not necessary to engage in copulation with a member of your own or the opposite sex in order to understand the fundamental truths of human sexuality, morality and psychology. That's because those truths are not found in the male or female reproductive tract nor in the part of the brain which goes "oooh.....aaaah" when a pleasurable sensation is experienced.

Rather, those truths been revealed by God to men and their fundamental value has been verified to the nth degree over thousands of years due to the calamitous consequences which occur when men ignore them, as has occurred with monotonous regularity. A man or woman who is chaste is quite capable of viewing the human experience in historical terms and drawing conclusions from it.

Perhaps we should all take our advice on sexual morality from someone whose entire life has been one sexual encounter after another. That's where your logic goes. I suggest Hugh Hefner. He'll set you straight.

No, seriously.....

[stuartcr]

I think advice on moral issues should come from the individual and their relationship with God, not from someone else...especially someone that has taken a vow of celibacy. and has probably never been married.

[trailhkr1]

Perhaps we should all take our advice on sexual morality from someone whose entire life has been one sexual encounter after another. That's where your logic goes. I suggest Hugh Hefner. He'll set you straight.

What we have here is two extremes..advice from a celibate priest or Hugh Hefner...How about someone in the middle such as a married pastor or a licensed marriage counselor?

[Jeff Chandler]

My answers to #11;
No

If you do not believe in universal truth then you don't need to ask anyone for advice, or study Christian ethics, or even study the Bible. Just do what you feel like doing. How could go wrong if "wrong" is not universal?