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To: Salvation; daniel1212
Daniel, Your post is full of your own opinions, right? Yet, I do not see “I believe that Catholics.......” You just say “Catholics......” Why are you afraid to take reponsibility for your own opinion? Could it be because you know that some of it might be in error? That you are not God? That you cannot judge the Catholic Church and the people in it? Why don’t you say...”It is my opinion that Catholics....”

Daniel1212 has taken great care to assert provable facts using Roman Catholic sources and unbiased history for many of his points and comparing them to Holy Scripture. I see NO indication that he is simply stating his own opinion on most of these issues but it IS curious that you offer NO such admonition to the Catholic comments to which the last of these posts are addressing which NEVER began a statement with "I believe..." and, instead, repeatedly asserts dogmatically that everyone who doesn't believe the same way, is wrong and who provides negligable documentation to prove it.

By what hubris can you assert that nobody can "judge the Catholic Church and the people in it"? Catholics certainly have no qualms about judging anyone outside of the Roman Catholic Church. We are reminded repeatedly in Scripture TO judge and determine truth BY the Scriptures as well as by the fruit shown in individuals' lives.

I am extremely grateful for the content of Daniel1212's posts here and find them scholarly, fair and informative. He seldom makes statements that are based solely upon his own opinions - unlike many that post on these threads. Perhaps you don't agree with his findings or they make you uncomfortable because they prove to be much more than mere opinions, but trying to discredit his statements with the whiffle-bat of "you are just giving your own opinion", "your opinion could be wrong" and "you aren't God, are you?" only demonstrates to me and others that what he DOES have to say must be irrefutable. I believe that some Catholics cannot tolerate the slightest criticism of their church and they resort to inane retorts such as these rather than refute the statements. If what Daniel1212 has stated is in error, then PROVE it. Show us that what he references and what he says is wrong - and make the better argument. If all you've got is "stop picking on Catholics", then save it for Sunday School where that will work. It doesn't here.

970 posted on 06/22/2012 11:36:51 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Thanks God for your heart. While i may state my conclusions in the light of evidence, I do endeavor to substantiate my arguments based on research, and from the sources of those whose views i am stating, or arguing against.

And which are stated in the context of an argument, often against arguments by assertion of the claims of Rome, which as seen here, can by variously interpreted by Catholics, and or fail to make the necessary distinction between types of Catholics. Including on the canon of Scripture.

But which arguments opposing Catholicism sometimes do as well, though specifying “Rome” as referring to the church of Rome is censured by some.


976 posted on 06/23/2012 9:42:36 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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