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To: metmom
Go back and read post 353 and try to brush up on your reading comprehension issues.

Here is what you said:The reason they specify Roman or Ukrainian is not because neither considered the other legit. It is because they have different liturgies. They are both fully in communion and one is as legit as the other. Again, you have shown no evidence to demonstrate they weren't considered legit.

And in post 403 you made the claim:

    The Roman Catholics don't consider Ukrainian Catholics quite good enough and the Ukrainian Catholics know it.
My reading comprehension is fine. What you said is not true and you've provided no evidence to back up your claim.

The Eastern Catholics are in full communion. In fact, we have Latin Catholics posting here on FR who routinely attend Eastern Catholic liturgies. I've done so many times myself, including at Ukrainian Greek Catholic churches, because the Church considers them to be not only good enough but in full communion.

508 posted on 06/10/2012 4:12:24 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites; boatbums
My reading comprehension is fine. What you said is not true and you've provided no evidence to back up your claim.

Interesting. You were in on the conversations I had with the people I lived with and worked with?

You can't tell me what others said to me isn't true because you weren't there to witness and hear the conversations. You can't pass judgment on their veracity. The only options you have is to tell me I'm lying, which you just did here, or to tell me that that is not what you experienced. But you have no basis for telling me what I experienced is not true.

Again, the evidence makes the RCC look bad, so the typical recourse is to attack the integrity of the person relating the information.

Right there it tells me I hit a nerve.

Another thing you seem to be incapable of understanding is the distinction between official church position and the thinking of the grassroots lay Catholics.

My comment was about the PEOPLE in the Catholic church, not the technical position of the *Church*.

The Roman Catholic laity does not consider Ukrainian Catholics entirely legit. They look down their noses at them and the Ukrainian Catholics are well aware of the spiritual snobbery of the Roman Catholics as being in the REAL TRUE Church.

515 posted on 06/10/2012 8:30:11 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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