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To: boatbums
"Though he is far from the only church father who placed significant importance on the Holy Scripture as THE authority for truth claims, he DOES say quite a bit about the subject..."

Perhaps you should actually read the body of his work instead of carefully edited snippets plucked from the Internet. When you look for what he wrote about Scripture you find that his position is identical to that of the Catholic Church today. And when you examine what he wrote on tradition you find He also placed a great deal of importance on Holy Tradition as today's Churh still does.

You see, Tradition and Scripture are not an either / or proposition as Protestantism insists, but rather a both / and proposition because together they comprise the Deposit of Faith. Creating and then attacking the straw man that Catholics reject Scripture because we embrace Tradition because Protestantism does the opposite is a fallacy that gets harder to ignore on a daily basis. Let us agree to disagree where our doctrines differ, but I really tire of arguing against allegations of what you think or want the Church to be.

May the Blessings of our Lord be upon you.

348 posted on 06/07/2012 11:14:29 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law
When you look for what he wrote about Scripture you find that his position is identical to that of the Catholic Church today. And when you examine what he wrote on tradition you find He also placed a great deal of importance on Holy Tradition as today's Churh still does.

What Athanasius called "Tradition" and what the Roman Catholic Church of today calls tradition are NOT one and the same. Tradition in Athanasius' day did not include many of the "salvific" ones the Catholic Church has created since his time, but his were the truths of the Christian faith handed down from the Apostles and certainly reinforced BY Scripture. Why do you think God bothered to have it all written down if not to give us a sure way to know his revealed truths? He did the same thing with the Old Testament Scriptures and it sure worked for thousands of years longer than the New Testament has been around. Jesus said "it is written" so many times because it is AUTHORITY from HIM to all of us.

We will have to agree to disagree but don't expect me to hush up when I'm accused of creating "straw men" instead of legitimate points. The allegations I make about the Catholic Church are real and I am hardly the only one who has brought them to the fore.

If all someone wants to do is come on these forums and presume to halt all discussions with a wave of the hand and a terse, "We are the One, True Church and we are right about everything we say", then I wouldn't waste my time if I were them. I think many of us are past the point where such bluster makes any impact.

350 posted on 06/07/2012 11:49:23 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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