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To: metmom

One is saved when one believes and one is baptized when one believes. Your argument is not with me, it with the Bible which says as much, Jesus says as much.

Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Why does one need the Holy Spirit? Why did Jesus send Him to the Apostles and disciples and to us?

And yes, the shed blood of Jesus saves, opens the gates of heaven and repairs our relationship with God. But, if that is all that people need to be saved and have eternal life with God, then why does one have to believe? Why isn’t everyone saved? Why must one repent?

*****The point is that even though these differing denomination are reading the VERY SAME Bible, they are coming to VERY DIFFERENT conclusions about some fundamental things.*****

*****Nor fundamental things whether you think so or not. I’m telling you they’re not and since it is not your faith we are discussing, you have no ability to decide what are fundamental differences or not. It’s up to those of us whose faith it is to define it.****

And why is that you get to decide that? By what authority do you say that the very nature of God, Jesus and the believer are not fundamental differences?

Catholics don’t get the privilege of defining Protestant beliefs for them.

I am hardly doing that. I can go to numerous websites or read tracts or books written by Protestants that define those beliefs. I have not tried to define yours.

In fact, I never engaged you at all. I asked a question, a sincere one of another poster and you jumped in with all the usual, trite, shallow garbage that is spouted by a bevy of virulent agitators whenever Catholics post a thread like this.

And why is that a protestant can tell me what I believe as a Catholic, even after I have declared that not to be so?

Practice what you preach.


193 posted on 06/05/2012 6:51:55 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette
And why is that a protestant can tell me what I believe as a Catholic, even after I have declared that not to be so?

Dey gots de Holy Spirit, don'cha know!

198 posted on 06/05/2012 7:07:41 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Jvette
And why is that a protestant can tell me what I believe as a Catholic, even after I have declared that not to be so?

Dey gots de Holy Spirit, don'cha know!

200 posted on 06/05/2012 7:08:18 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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