I am not interested in a cut and paste response from anyone on any topic. I never do that, I always use my own words unless I am quoting Scripture.
Many Catholics disagree with the Church on many things. So what? They do not have the authority to declare binding beliefs on anyone and must answer for their own dissent when the time comes.
A cursory reading of “your” list was enough for me. I found it to be misleading and disingenuous at best.
There are actually only seven doctrines which a Catholic is bound to hold as Truth.....
The Nature of God, as in the Holy Trinity including the Nature of Jesus as True God and True Man
The Passion, Death and Resurrection of Jesus
The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist
The Perpetual Virginity of Mary
The Assumption of Mary
The Immaculate Conception of Mary
Papal Infallibility regarding matters of faith and morals.
The rest is tradition with a small “t” and disciplines and practices which are not defined.
Does that make 1.2 billion Catholic denominations then?
For crying out loud, that's the very thing Protestants are condemned for and now it's OK because Catholics do it?
FWIW< there's more than enough evidence in the CCC and the canons from the council of Trent to know that disagreement with Catholic doctrine is NOT tolerated. Much of it results in anathemas.
Hey, dan, this is another one Catholics disagree on. Their ability to disagree with the Church.
They do not have the authority to declare binding beliefs on anyone and must answer for their own dissent when the time comes.
No different than Protestants who think that they answer to God for their own personal choices.
I am not interested in a cut and paste response from anyone on any topic. I never do that, I always use my own words unless I am quoting Scripture.
You may never do that, but when we post material that impugns Rome we are disparaged if it is not referenced, and or not from Rome, and it should often be both (though even that sometimes will not stop attempts to discredit such).
Many Catholics disagree with the Church on many things. So what? They do not have the authority to declare binding beliefs on anyone and must answer for their own dissent when the time comes.
But as what all the binding beliefs are, then what dissent may allowed can be unclear, while the church is not supposed to wait until the Lord's return for discipline, and in reality her overall lack of discipline, and even official approval of teachings including things which conservative Catholics rail against, effectually conveys allowance of a broad degree of liberty of liberal doctrine.
A cursory reading of “your” list was enough for me. I found it to be misleading and disingenuous at best. There are actually only seven doctrines which a Catholic is bound to hold as Truth.....
Rather, it is your unsubstantiated statement that is misleading, as in your cursory reading you must have missed that neither list is dealing with binding truths, in which case the Protestant list would also be very short. In addition, as expressed, a more meaningful comparison is between sola ecclesia churches and SS type churches.
The Nature of God, as in the Holy Trinity including the Nature of Jesus as True God and True Man
The Passion, Death and Resurrection of Jesus
The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist
The Perpetual Virginity of Mary
The Assumption of Mary
The Immaculate Conception of Mary
Papal Infallibility regarding matters of faith and morals.
The rest is tradition with a small “t” and disciplines and practices which are not defined.
Thank you for your opinion, but while these are “binding*,” the number of binding doctrines is open to some interpretation, as “The degree in which the infallible magisterium of the Holy See is committed must be judged from the circumstances, and from the language used in the particular case.” (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05413a.htm)
Thus there is is disagreement even over how many infallible papal statements have been made, from 20 or less to perhaps many more.
Recently, the Vatican official responsible for relations with the Jews, stated that,
The Catholic Church's relationship to Judaism as taught by the Second Vatican Council and the interpretations and developments of that teaching by subsequent popes, "are binding on a Catholic... "All the doctrinal decisions of the church are binding on a Catholic, including the Second Vatican Council and all its texts," Cardinal Koch said. (May 17, 2012, http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=31359&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cathnews%2FRSS+%28CathNews%29)
But just what doctrinal decisions are can see different interpretations:
The Second Vatican Council’s declarations on non-Christian religions and religious freedom do not contain “binding doctrinal content,” Cardinal Walter Brandmüller said at a press conference on May 21 [2012]...Stating that the conciliar documents have differing degrees of authority, Cardinal Brandmuller said that “there is a huge difference between a great constitution and simple declarations.”
“Strangely enough, the two most controversial documents [on religious liberty and relations with non-Christian religions] do not have a binding doctrinal content, so one can dialogue about them,” he continued. “So I don’t understand why our friends in the Society of St. Pius X concentrate almost exclusively on these two texts.” (http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=14369)
And the SSPX (partly) and sedevacantists reject Vatican Two teaching as being binding. (http://www.catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/vatican2/renew2.html)
In addition, your list is shorter than what i see.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in 1998, provided a partial list of “those doctrines of divine and catholic faith which the Church taught as divinely and formally revealed. . ."
The articles of faith of the Creed
The various Christological dogmas and Marian dogmas
The doctrine of the institution of the sacraments by Christ and their efficacy with regard to grace
The doctrine of the real and substantial presence of Christ in the Eucharist and the sacrificial nature of the eucharistic celebration
The foundation of the Church by the will of Christ
The doctrine on the primacy and infallibility of the Roman Pontiff
The doctrine on the existence of original sin
The doctrine on the immortality of the spiritual soul and on the immediate recompense after death
The absence of error in the inspired sacred texts
The doctrine on the grave immorality of direct and voluntary killing of an innocent human being.
(http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDFADTU.HTM)
Then there is the priest:
God Himself is obliged to abide by the judgment of His priest, and either not to pardon or
to pardon, according as they refuse or give absolution… The sentence of the priest precedes,
and God subscribes to it.” – Dignity and Duties of the Priest, St. Alphonsus Ligouri, Vol. 12, p. 2. http://www.archive.org/stream/alphonsusworks12liguuoft/alphonsusworks12liguuoft_djvu.txt
* Mysterium Ecclesia says,
"All those things are to be believed by divine and Catholic faith which are contained in the written or transmitted Word of God and which are proposed by the Church, either by a solemn judgment or by the ordinary and universal Magisterium, to be believed as having been divinely revealed" (dogmas).
Very briefly, infallible teaching (existing in 2 categories) is binding in an absolute and irrevocable way, requiring assent “de fide” (of faith) or sacred assent. Below that is teaching which requires submission, with an obsequium religiosum, often called “a religious assent of mind and will.” or ordinary assent. Private dissent may be allowed for such, with a submissive spirit. (cf. CCC 891,92, http://www.catholicplanet.com/TSM/assent-dissent.htm)
A fourth category, ordinary prudential teaching on disciplinary matters, is commonly accepted by theologians and can be inferred from the text of Cardinal Ratzinger’s Donum Veritatis. (http://catholicism.org/the-three-levels-of-magisterial-teaching.html)
Outside infallible decrees, other teachings are subject to the possibility of error, even on matters of faith and morals, but never to such an extent that any error, or set of errors, could lead the faithful away from the path of salvation. (http://www.catholicplanet.com/CMA/heresy-infallibility.htm)