Ahh yes...Lets just look at this discussion.
Knarf:
If recent "Amerrican Idol" shows are any indication ... God ain't allowin' ANY o' His people win these glamor/fame shows.
Devote Christianity includes separation from the world.
MM:
Seperation from the world huh? Last time I checked MY Bible, it said to be IN the world, not seperated from it.
Maybe yours says something else.
Knarf:
Come ye out from among them and be the therefore separated.(Corinthians 6:17)
MM:
XXX-Wrong answer.
Try reading the verse in context.
14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? 16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said,
The passage is clearly talking about PARTNERING with unbelievers.
I find it interesting you mention this verse, written by Paul, who referred himself as the Apostle to the Gentiles. Can't be an Apostle to unbelievers if one seperates themselves from them. One must go out amongst them.
Jesus' own words in John 17
13 But now I come to You; and these things I speak in the world so that they may have My joy made full in themselves. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15 I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 For their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth.
Your whole stated premis was seperation, and you used a bible verse to support that.
I pointed out the CONTEXT of the verse with other verses around it.
That is trying to "rightly divide the word (of truth)"...not trying to make the Word say what we want it to say, or think it says.
I then pointed out that Paul called himself the Apostle to the Gentiles, and to be that he had to go to them, NOT seperate himself from them.
Next I used Jesus' own words which stated that he was SENT in to the world and that he SENT his followers in to the world.
He was also PRAYING that God wouldn't take them out of the world, BUT to keep them from the evil one.
Lastly
Knarf:
Well, I must be mistaken to think a girl half naked before the world was not to be considered unChristian.
I guess those girls don't eat and drink winning and glamor and physical beauty from wake-up to lights out.
I'm surely misled to think that I might look upon that woman and not commit adultery WITH her.
I'm SO blind.
Not one counter to my post. Nothing about "seperation".
Just a rant about a girl being half naked, and eating and drinking winning and glamour and physical beauty from wake up to lights out.
And a continued rant about committing or not committing adultery with her.
Yes...that is what I'd call spin.
You avoided the subect at hand, "seperation", and began ranting about something else.
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Now on the other hand, there might be some basis to your other views that I WOULD agree with. (But those we weren't discussing).
But it is also important to note WHAT the article is about.
The article is about a beautiful woman in a beauty pageant, Who is openly a self proclaimed Christian, and unapologetic about it, in a venue that can be openly hostile and ruthless to ANY Christians, unknown or up front.
You say you're not holier than thou, and yet you're attacking a beautiful woman, who admits to her own beauty AND YET, who proclaims Christ and her following of him, OVER her beauty, in a venue that WORSHIPS beauty and denigrates Christians, or anybody who tries to uphold morals.
I could have "understood" the attack if this was a piece on a beauty queen who was espousing Christian platitudes just to garner her favorability or fame. Instead, I see this as an article trying to boost and encourage a woman of beauty and substance, and you looking for a way, ANY WAY, to assasinate her, because she doesn't fit YOUR ideal.
I see however, that your position is what dictates your comments and (what you accuse me of being MY position) is not my position because I think so, but because I allow scripture to formulate my thought process.
It's called brain washing.