[Houghton M.]

To believe that God created the universe is not the same as being a creationist. Creationist refers to young earth creationists. 52 % of the population is not YEC.

The anti-creation (not anti-creatinist) forces would like to equate belief in any form of divine creation with YEC because they want to discredit all belief in creation, something science cannot do. Science can argue, scientifically, against young earth creationism (b/c YEC argues scientifically for young earth). Belief in creation without further specifying how it happend (young earth, old earth, mediam-age earth) cannot be argued against scientifically because it is a belief about whether or not something or Someone exists outside the scientifically observable universe. Science can’t say yes or no to that. Philosophy and religion can.

Anti-creation forces would like to make all belief in creation into a matter of science and then insist that science disproves all belief in creation. That’s a stupid and non-scientific position but they try it anyway.

The way they attempt this sleight of mind is to lump all belief in creation, old earth and young earth creation belief together.

The title should have read “52 % Believe in Creation”

Christians and Jews need to fight against the effort to lump all of us under the label “creationist.”

[Matchett-PI]

Exactly. bttt

Of course you are free to insist upon young earth creationism, but you must know that it is going to contradict so much evidence that you will essentially have to split your mind in two. You will live in a scientific world with all of its blessings, and yet, a part of you will have to reject it, or at least not be able to fully integrate it into your belief system.

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"....Even more generally, time is not just mere duration, but the transforming mode of being. It has cycles and archetypal qualities, which is why we can even speak of “growth” or “evolution.” In this scheme, evolution is a necessary consequence of the Absolute manifesting in time. Ironically, progressive evolution (as opposed to mere change) is something that cannot be explained (because it is inherently vertical) by any purely horizontal metaphysics, which is why so-called “creationists” are even more materialistic than materialists. It is always a mistake to try to reduce metaphysical truth ­ truths that must be true ­ to your narrow creed. Rather, your task is to understand how these timeless truths are reflected in your creed. God did not give you an intellect only to ignore its most lofty capabilities. Please." HERE: Sunday Nonsense & Theidiocy