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To: Yashcheritsiy

I am correct. Ophis is from the Hebrew word OPHTHALMOE which means “through sharpness of vision”.

The definition of Ophis as used at the time in Greek is:

a snake (figuratively, as a type of sly and cunning), an artful, malicious person, espc. Satan-serpent.

That’s straight from my Greek Dictionary out of my dad’s library. Sorry. you need to dig back further.


53 posted on 06/01/2012 3:16:53 PM PDT by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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To: sevinufnine
I am correct. Ophis is from the Hebrew word OPHTHALMOE which means “through sharpness of vision”.

Ophthalmos is Greek, not Hebrew.

The definition of Ophis as used at the time in Greek is:

a snake (figuratively, as a type of sly and cunning), an artful, malicious person, espc. Satan-serpent.

That’s straight from my Greek Dictionary out of my dad’s library. Sorry. you need to dig back further.

No I don't. You have it backwards. The literal, non-figurative, denotative meaning of ophis is a snake or serpent. The near figurative meaning is to describing something snake-like in appearance. Other figurative meanings include both somebody who is a sly, cunning, or malicious person, as you're using it, and also to describe an arrow (in the sense that it "strikes" suddenly like a snake). All of this information is an extremely condensed summary of what the Liddell, Scott, and Jones Greek lexicon, the abridged Liddell and Scott, Autenrieth's Homeric lexicon, and Slater's Pindar lexicon all have to say about the word.

Herodotus, Pindar, Homer, Aratus, Hesiod, and most Greek writers after them use ophis primarily to refer to a snake or serpent, and secondarily to the various figurative senses that I described above. Clearly, the word means a literal snake or serpent. The uses you are suggesting - figurative - are not wrong, but also are not the primary meaning of the word.

78 posted on 06/02/2012 9:46:21 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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