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To: CynicalBear

We are redeemed not sanctified by Jesus’ death on the Cross.

You still do not understand.

Our justification is not the same as our Redemption. Jesus redeemed mankind but we must live a holy life, with the help of God’s grace, you will persevere to the end following God’s ways to gain salvation.


875 posted on 05/30/2012 9:07:34 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
>>God’s ways to gain salvation.<<

You have got to be kidding. God’s way to “gain” salvation? Have you never read scripture? Christ paid in full for our salvation and it was perfect and complete. Nothing we do will “gain” our salvation. Claiming we need to do something to “gain” salvation is to claim that Christ’s sacrifice on the cross was incomplete.

876 posted on 05/30/2012 9:14:01 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: stpio
>>We are redeemed not sanctified by Jesus’ death on the Cross.<<

Let’s do this one more time.

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

880 posted on 05/30/2012 9:19:22 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: stpio
You still do not understand.

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

888 posted on 05/30/2012 10:04:39 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: stpio
Our justification is not the same as our Redemption. Jesus redeemed mankind but we must live a holy life, with the help of God’s grace, you will persevere to the end following God’s ways to gain salvation. = salvation by works.

Galatians 3:1-6 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. 2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? 4 Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? 5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith— 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?

906 posted on 05/31/2012 12:42:47 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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