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To: stpio
“Sorry daniel, without Mary’s free will cooperation with
God in the plan of redemption we would not have been
redeemed, Jesus would not of become a human person.”

The actions or lack thereof of a young Jewish girl would hardly stop or frustrate the will of the Almighty from being accomplished.

“Mary of course, in a much greater way. ~Co-~ means WITH.”

Actually the prefix “co” indicates a partnership or joint participation as in “co-owner, co-editor” etc.

Mary didn't do any redeeming or buying back of mankind nor could she.

845 posted on 05/30/2012 5:05:37 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change; stpio
"Actually the prefix “co” indicates a partnership or joint participation as in “co-owner, co-editor” etc."

When is this nonsense going to stop? The Church declares that in its doctrines Mary is the Co-redemptrix and then very specifically and unambiguously defines the term. Then some non-Catholics jump in and say "no that isn't what you mean!".

Such comments aren't even worth refuting, especially when the offer has been made numerous times to explain the teaching and the offenders have opted for continued ignorance. I do pity them and pray that the gift of wisdom and understanding be given them if not the gift of knowledge. I also pray that I get the gift of patience to continue to suffer the fools.

Peace be with you.

846 posted on 05/30/2012 5:22:55 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: count-your-change
The Blessed Trinity wants everyone to honor and love Mary. Think of the Commandment to honor your parents. She can't appear to Protestants yet but by exception because you all proclaim heresies. Mary will at or after the Great Warning when we all believe the same. She loves you so much, everybody can speak to her now in prayer.

CYC: The actions or lack thereof of a young Jewish girl would hardly stop or frustrate the will of the Almighty from being accomplished.

God didn't give every person He created free will? Why bother sending the archangel Gabriel? Where does the "lack there of" apply to Mary?

“Mary of course, in a much greater way. ~Co-~ means WITH.”

Actually the prefix “co” indicates a partnership or joint participation as in “co-owner, co-editor” etc.

Exactly, Mary's free will choice, her "joint participation" in, another word "with" the Trinity's plan for mankind's redemption.

Mary didn't do any redeeming or buying back of mankind nor could she.

A person's prayers never helps "with" the salvation of far away loved ones or helps "with" something temporal here? Yes they do. How come our actions in helping Our Lord, our prayers are fine but Mary saying "yes" I will watch My Son die a terrible tortured death doesn't count? Which shows more of a cooperation in God's plan? Thank Mary, it would please Our Lord very much, reject the anti-Mary belief.

848 posted on 05/30/2012 5:48:42 PM PDT by stpio
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