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To: metmom
My last boss divorced the Church because he didn't like the priest's hospital visits to his daughter (as he explained it - they weren't 'concerned' enough). Always personal. Nothing to do with theology or faith. Everything to do with the god in the mirror.

So? You know one reason from one person and all of a sudden ALL former Catholics fit that profile?

Profile? Sure. Some disagree with the Church's stand on homosexuality; others marriage; others the Sacraments; others (open the Catechism at random and somebody will have a beef with it). But it all comes down to the idea of me, myself and I. I choose what to believe, when I want to believe it, where I want to believe it, how often I want to believe it, and how long I want to believe it before I wander off into something else.

The magic of Martin Luther's Reformation is the idea that one can create his own beliefs, theology and religion, like his 'every milkmaid' that he rued as he realized what he had done.

Teddy Kennedy was a Catholic, even got a Catholic funeral. Shall we paint all Catholics as a Kennedy, as adulterous, murdering, liars??

Far too many are. Far too many Baptists, Pentecostals, Methodists, Reformed, and what have you are as well. Can you name me any Baptists that have been excommunicated? Count for me the free will or the Calvinist Baptists that have been refused a Baptist funeral. Will you actually need a second hand of fingers, or will one do?

Using your standards.......

Please do. And show me where Freaky Freddy Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church has been dealt with in the manner that they appear to need. I don't mean to pick on the Baptists - I like the Baptists just fine. Select another denomination if you prefer.

78 posted on 05/18/2012 2:25:46 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

I am a member of the PCA (Presbyterian Church of America). I believe that not long ago, the presbytery basically kicked a church out because they were not following correct doctrine. It is not that unusual. I also know several PCA pastors who will not marry couples. I also know of instances where people were not allowed to participate in communion and then asked to leave the church because of sin.

Just because you haven’t heard of it does not mean it doesn’t happen. It happens a lot more in evengelical churches than in the Roman church, IMO.


80 posted on 05/18/2012 3:08:04 PM PDT by lupie
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To: MarkBsnr
Can you name me any Baptists that have been excommunicated?

In the last two Evangelical churches I've attended, I know of members who were removed from the membership rolls- one because of adultery, one because of unethical business practices which the church confronted him about and he did not stop, and one pastor who was removed from the ministry and had his license revoked for garden variety adultery.

Nothing like molesting little boys stuff.....

I find it hypocritical to the extreme that criticism is lobbed at non-Catholcis for how they deal with sin in the congregation considering the inaction on the part of the Catholic church in their OWN house. When priests who homosexually abuse little boys are not dealt with and liberals like Pelosi, Kennedy, etc who basically spit in the face of the church are not only given license to continue their liberal politics, but are permitted to take communion and given Catholic funerals, no Catholic is in any position to legitimately criticize any other denomination for how they handle sin among their members.

84 posted on 05/18/2012 5:50:36 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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