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To: daniel1212

Also, the Apostles and more importantly their MESSAGE/SCRIPTURE was authenticated by God via the miracles they performed.

The Popes/Magesterium have no such authentication from God for their extra biblical tradition.


697 posted on 05/29/2012 12:01:48 PM PDT by bkaycee
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To: bkaycee
Also, the Apostles and more importantly their MESSAGE/SCRIPTURE was authenticated by God via the miracles they performed. The Popes/Magesterium have no such authentication from God for their extra biblical tradition.

Nothing could be further from the truth! The problem is Protestants habitually declare these miracles, which occur even into the present day, to be "lying signs and wonders."

just the miraculous transformation of discarded consecrated hosts into human flesh and blood is a study in its own right.

699 posted on 05/29/2012 12:32:49 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: bkaycee
"The Popes/Magesterium have no such authentication from God for their extra biblical tradition."

Are you contending that the Church has been completely without miracles since the death of St. John?

702 posted on 05/29/2012 12:40:27 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: bkaycee

Actually, they will claim they do, but while such does at least somewhat attest to the supernatural (which atheists refuse to even allow), it hardly compares with the purity, passion, probity and power which the apostles could attest they were “approving ourselves as the ministers of God, (2Cor. 6:4ff) with constant supernatural “signs of an apostle” wrought “in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds,” (2Cor. 12:12), neither where the supposed successors even chosen by the method used for the one and only apostolic replacement (in order to maintain the original number of apostles. (Acts 1:15-26; cf. Rv. 21:14)

Yet even these manifestly God-ordained men did not claim assured infallibility for whatever they would ever universally speak on faith and morals, but validated their message by Scriptural means, in word and in power, explaining, “by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God”, (2 Corinthians 4:2) to the glory of God.


725 posted on 05/29/2012 2:19:37 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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