[metmom]

You. can not, at least while maintaining any kind of intellectual integrity, claim your "second birth" is in any sense literal, while also denying my assertion consuming the bread and wine is literally consuming the Body and Blood, without cutting off the interpretational limb you're standing on.

While you, on the other hand, take the consuming the bread and wine as literally consuming the Body and Blood, and yet do not take the second birth as literal. The very same situation that you condemn roamer for is what you do yourself and cut yourself slack with.

How does that work again?

FWIW, Jesus Himself said that a man MUST BE born again. Read John 3 before disparaging the second birth any more. It is real and it is literal as Jesus stated it as a fact.

[Natural Law]

"FWIW, Jesus Himself said that a man MUST BE born again..."

FWIW, you are making the same mistake that Nicodemus made. The Greek adverb used, "anothen", means "from above".

Peace be with you.

[papertyger]

...and yet do not take the second birth as literal.

Where did I say that?

It makes no sense for me to try to carry on an adult argument with someone who doesn't even bother with what I write, and goes after groundless prejudices attributed to me.

That is bigotry by definition. But without that presumption, your entire response to me falls apart.

Don't presume to give me verses to read, with which I am quite familiar, until you are ready to make the effort to read what I've actually written, not what you wish I wrote.