[roamer_1]

BTW, how is the denial you posit NOT applicable to being "born again" aside from the fact that no one left him, with his approval, over it? Conversely, how is our denial of your dogma any less legitimate? You can't have it both ways.

Your words are hitting me in a convoluted fashion. Please reiterate or explain your thought a bit more... IOW: Huh?

No hurry though... Heading for the crib. I will catch up w/ you tomorrow.

Good night.

[papertyger]

Please reiterate or explain your thought a bit more... IOW: Huh?

Sure, no problem.

You take a, for lack of a better term, philosophically literalist position on being born again. I do so with regard to the Body and Blood, though in point of fact neither of us are pointing to an action recognizable by a third party as what we describe.

You. can not, at least while maintaining any kind of intellectual integrity, claim your "second birth" is in any sense literal, while also denying my assertion consuming the bread and wine is literally consuming the Body and Blood, without cutting off the interpretational limb you're standing on.