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To: stpio; count-your-change; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
God gave the gift to interpret Scripture to the Church, the RCC not “some individuals in the congregations.”

And that kind of thinking is where ignorance or Scripture will get you. Paul is talking about individual believers here, not congregations. And even if he were, it would be enough to blow out of the water the idea that all churches have to be the same and agree. Because at the very least, congregation would differ from congregation as to which gifts each had. So much for the criticism of the number of denominations of Protestantism. The Body of Christ is not all one organ although if the Catholic church had it's way, that would be the case. Thank God that Christ is head of the church, not some man or group of men.

This is what Scripture says...

1 Corinthians 12:4-31 4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; 5 and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; 6 and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone.

7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 8 For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.

12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body— Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit.

14 For the body does not consist of one member but of many. 15 If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell? 18 But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose. 19 If all were a single member, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, yet one body.

21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you,” nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and on those parts of the body that we think less honorable we bestow the greater honor, and our unpresentable parts are treated with greater modesty, 24 which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body, giving greater honor to the part that lacked it, 25 that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. 26 If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together.

27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. 28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way.

These gifts and offices are WITHIN the assembly (aka church) individually to each believer as the Holy Spirit determines is best for edifying the body, clearly showing that it is people who have been given the gifts of teaching etc, not *the *Church*, as an organization.

The body of Christ is an organism, which we are, not an organization which we belong to.

405 posted on 05/25/2012 8:31:20 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; stpio
"And that kind of thinking is where ignorance or Scripture will get you."

Scripture clearly states that knowledge, wisdom and understanding are gifts of the Holy Spirit and that not all are blessed with all of the gifts. To whom are those not blessed with the gifts of knowledge, wisdom and understanding to turn or the interpretation of Scripture and how are they to know to whom they must turn?

406 posted on 05/25/2012 8:55:38 AM PDT by Natural Law ("AMOR VINCIT OMNIA")
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To: count-your-change; metmom

stpio:
“God gave the gift to interpret Scripture to the Church, the RCC not “some individuals in the congregations.”

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You left off my question for CYC metmom.

Count-your-change, friend, you didn’t answer my question.

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CYC:
“It is noteworthy that one of the gifts of the spirit Paul listed was the ability of some individuals in the congregations to distinguish between true and false writings. (1 Cor, 12:10)”

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1Cor 12:10
To another, the working of miracles; to another, prophecy; to another, the discerning of spirits; to another, diverse kinds of tongues; to another, interpretation of speeches.

Which ONE of the gifts is the gift to distinguish between true and false writings? God gave the gift to interpret Scripture to the Church, the RCC not “some individuals in the congregations.”


408 posted on 05/25/2012 12:32:41 PM PDT by stpio
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