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To: ansel12
most of these people are looking for a deeper more Christian involvement,

You could air that out and fertilize the garden with it. Most of these people either want to contracept, abort their children, divorce and remarry, ordain women, or engage in aberrant sexual behavior. These people want God on their terms, not His.

39 posted on 05/17/2012 11:06:44 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Catholics vote for what you just described, Evangelicals vote against it, it is why some would leave what you described and seek what they believe to be a deeper, more conservative form of worship, and congregation.


41 posted on 05/17/2012 11:14:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (When immutable definition of Bible marriage of One Man, One Woman, is in jeopardy, call the Mormon.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; ansel12
You could air that out and fertilize the garden with it. Most of these people either want to contracept, abort their children, divorce and remarry, ordain women, or engage in aberrant sexual behavior. These people want God on their terms, not His.

Wrong. We want Christ on HIS terms, not the Catholic church's.

54 posted on 05/18/2012 4:10:16 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

“Most of these people either want to contracept, abort their children, divorce and remarry, ordain women, or engage in aberrant sexual behavior.”

Well, according to the study, Catholics seem quite comfortable doing most of those things while remaining Catholic. (not counting remarriage and ordaining women)


62 posted on 05/18/2012 6:47:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: A.A. Cunningham; ansel12; daniel1212
You could air that out and fertilize the garden with it. Most of these people either want to contracept, abort their children, divorce and remarry, ordain women, or engage in aberrant sexual behavior.

Considering the thousands year long reputation of the Catholic clergy for immorality and corruption, that'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

From post 32 this thread......

40% Roman Catholics vs. 41% Non-R.C. see abortion as "morally acceptable"; Sex between unmarried couples: 67% vs. 57%; Baby out of wedlock: 61% vs. 52%; Homosexual relations: 54% vs. 45%; Gambling: 72% vs. 59%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/117154/Catholics-Similar-Mainstream-Abortion-Stem-Cells.aspx

Committed Roman Catholics (church attendance weekly or almost) versus Non-R.C. faithful church goers (see the below as as morally acceptable): Abortion: 24% R.C. vs. 19% Non-R.C.; Sex between unmarried couples: 53% vs. 30%; Baby out of wedlock: 48% vs. 29%; Homosexual relations: 44% vs. 21%; Gambling: 67% vs. 40%; Divorce: 63 vs. 46% ^

88% of Catholics believe that they can practice artificial means of birth control and still be considered good Catholics. New York Times/CBS News poll, Apr. 21-23, 1994, subsample of 446 Catholics, MOE ± 5%

65 posted on 05/18/2012 8:06:53 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
You could air that out and fertilize the garden with it. Most of these people either want to contracept, abort their children, divorce and remarry, ordain women, or engage in aberrant sexual behavior. These people want God on their terms, not His.

Not trying to be sarcastic, but it seems the Catholic Church doesn't discipline anyone who knowingly, out right practices, and even heavily promotes any of these things. Look at how they give a blind eye to countless politicians who openly champion most, if not all of the things you mention on your list. This is so confusing to people, especially young people. It is truly a double message. Also, from what I have seen, it is easy for a Catholic to get an "annulment" and remarry. The Catholic Church may be good at giving at talk, but often doesn't do much about following through on what they say. That way they can have it both ways. They appease the more Conservative Catholic with the talk, and also the sinful, murdering Catholic with none action concerning discipline. Be careful that you are not being played.

Find a Church that follows through with what it preaches about. Find a Church that preaches that Christ is central and that the most important thing you can do in your life is live for Him personally and keep God, Himself, on the throne of your heart, not any Church. Find a Church where you are able to serve Him corporately better than you can serve Him alone. A Church where you know The Spirit of God is there in power. Don't be satisfied with religiosity when you can have the real thing.

1,325 posted on 06/05/2012 9:14:43 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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