“You say you’re not “Bible Alone” but keep quoting only Scripture not any oral tradition AND using your own private interpretation of the Bible”.
CYC:
We have the model of Christ who over and over again quoted Scripture saying “it is written”. When he did quote oral tradition it was usually to show it contrary to God’s word.
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How do you have the “model of Christ?” Who gave it to you?
Defending the Bible which came from the Church to reject the Church by saying Jesus said “it is written.” Jesus was speaking of the written record of the OLD Covenant. There was no Gospel yet. How many times did He use this term? What of the rest of His words passed down from the Apostles?
Your last sentence, give example. Are you raising up the written tradition by saying the oral tradition is “usually” (your cover) wrong per Our Lord? In talking about Moses’ seat, Jesus was teaching, don’t do as they do. Our Lord mentioning the chair of Moses is proof there is the Oral Word.
Matthew 23:2
Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses.
“Like wise with Paul. Take a concordance and see how often the apostles cited, “it is written” as support and how often they said “it’s traditional to do this and such”
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Christ or Paul reminding the people of the time of the
written word of God doesn’t make the oral tradition of the
Old Covenant less. Sometimes it was to remind them the “written” was being fulfilled before their eyes.
Think of the New Covenant oral tradition you do accept, it’s
pretty important, yes?
“What of the rest of His words passed down from the Apostles?’”
And what might these be? A human priesthood within the Christian church? The Immaculate Conception of Mary? Her bodily assumption into heaven?
Tradition perhaps but not part of God's Word and therein lies the problem of traditions of men.
“How do you have the “model of Christ?” Who gave it to you?”
I'll take that as a rhetorical question since I've already dealt with that whole question in detail.
“Our Lord mentioning the chair of Moses is proof there is the Oral Word.”
Just what is this seat of Moses?
I understand where your argument is leading, I believe. That an “Oral Word” exists as a body of teachings on a par with the inspired written Scriptures and that furthermore the Catholic Church is the repository of this “Oral Word”.
“Are you raising up the written tradition by saying the oral tradition is “usually” (your cover) wrong per Our Lord?”
I don't need any “cover”, it was Christ who said over and again, “It is written” (no I didn't take a count).
And yours is what? The hierarchy of the Catholic church and the Catholic clergy through the ages???????
Spare me.
The Holy Spirit in Scripture.
Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Matthew 22:37-40 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
Don't go taking Scripture out of context now.
Matthew 23:1-36 23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, 3 so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice. 4 They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. 5 They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, 6 and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues 7 and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi by others.
8 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. 10 Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. 11 The greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in. 15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves.
16 “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’ 17 You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred? 18 And you say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gift that is on the altar, he is bound by his oath.’ 19 You blind men! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 So whoever swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And whoever swears by the temple swears by it and by him who dwells in it. 22 And whoever swears by heaven swears by the throne of God and by him who sits upon it.
23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. 24 You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!
25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean.
27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people's bones and all uncleanness. 28 So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, 30 saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. 33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? 34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, 35 so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 36 Truly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
The Catholic church does NOT sit in Moses seat and that verse does NOT give that kind of authority to the Catholic church.
The only reason Jesus told them to listen to the scribes and Pharisees is because they had Scripture, the Law, to back them up. The Catholic church doesn't even have that as it doesn't recognize the absolute authority of Scripture. It places the magesterium and *Holy Tradition* on par with Scripture and claims to have even written Scripture itself, in effect making Scripture subservient to the Catholic church.
That simply will not work in God's economy. If the very words breathed out by God the Holy Spirit aren't enough for someone then there's no hope for them as faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ. (Romans 10:17)