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To: stpio

Calling people *Catholics* and *church fathers* hundreds of years after they died does not make them so.

It’s no different than the Mormons who baptize the dead and claim them to be Mormon.

Unless those people themselves state that they were Roman Catholics, I don’t recognize anyone else’s claim that they were. It’s just a blatant attempt to validate a power grab.


272 posted on 05/23/2012 12:10:11 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

“Calling people *Catholics* and *church fathers* hundreds of years after they died does not make them so.

It’s no different than the Mormons who baptize the dead and claim them to be Mormon.

Unless those people themselves state that they were Roman Catholics, I don’t recognize anyone else’s claim that they were. It’s just a blatant attempt to validate a power grab.”

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You reject history to your loss. You haven’t stated who canonized Scripture since it is your PO, the RCC didn’t. Second time I have asked metmom. Post it.

Don’t bother with the usual complete two paragraph early Church history from 33 A.D. until 1517. You know with the single lone name overkill of Constantine. You can’t mention any of the first Christians from history because everyone knows they are Roman Catholic.

Here is an Apostolic Father, the 3rd Bishop of Antioch,
his name is Ignatius. Notice, there is a hierarchy.

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•Scripture tells us that the Gospels do not include all of Jesus’ words or miracles
•Some teachings of Christ were passed down from Christ to the Apostles and then to the next generation of Christians
•These people are known as the Apostolic Fathers.

Ex: St. Ignatius of Antioch was taught directly by the APOSTLE St. John.
St Ignatius was the first to use the term “CATHOLIC Church”.
“wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the CATHOLIC Church”


274 posted on 05/23/2012 1:03:10 AM PDT by stpio
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