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To: stpio
Let's not cherry pick Scriptures, shall we? Here's the section in context:

Hebrews 10:10-20
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; And having an high priest over the house of God; Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

So, no, your "interpretation" of this one verse, implying that it is speaking only of sins committed prior to baptism as being remitted, but future sins needing the application of the grace received at the performance of the Mass, is plain wrong. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ perfected FOREVER those that are sanctified - made holy/set apart. By His ONE OFFERING - forever, for all who receive Him as Savior.

199 posted on 05/20/2012 11:31:41 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
"...but future sins needing the application of the grace received at the performance of the Mass..."

I almost expected a "hearafter reffered to as the third party" line after that.I'll have my lawyer look into the matter and get back to you.

Thankyou for your posts bb and the time you take to write them.God bless.

200 posted on 05/21/2012 3:18:46 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: boatbums

“So, no, your “interpretation” of this one verse, implying that it is speaking only of sins committed prior to baptism as being remitted, but future sins needing the application of the grace received at the performance of the Mass, is plain wrong. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ perfected FOREVER those that are sanctified - made holy/set apart. By His ONE OFFERING - forever, for all who receive Him as Savior.”

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“The sacrifice of Jesus Christ perfected FOREVER those that are sanctified” -

boatbums, Your words are not true.

Heb 10:12
But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

Hebrews 10:12
But this man offering one sacrifice for sins, for ever sitteth on the right hand of God.

The second is from the Douay-Rheims Bible. Notice where the coma is placed, one coma comes after the word forever and in the DR, the comma is placed before the word forever. Sure changes the meaning of the verse.

Man’s sins are ongoing, past, present and future. Look at the sins of the world. Jesus’ sacrifice on the Cross does not perfect a person. His death on the Cross does not sanctify you, His grace does.

How could you say “His ONE OFFERING” be only one time?

All Christians accept Jesus is our High Priest. Our Lord states His priesthood is everlasting in Hebrews 7:24. Our Lord continues to offer His sacrifice on Calvary to the Father for the sins of mankind in an “UNBLOODY” manner in Heaven and in the Mass here on earth, Our Lord is offered to the Father, the same, in an unbloody manner.


207 posted on 05/21/2012 2:37:19 PM PDT by stpio
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To: boatbums; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; count-your-change; ...

Baptism cannot remit one sin because it is not a blood sacrifice.

Without the shedding of blood, there is NO remission of sins.

Scripture is very clear that what Jesus is doing in heaven RIGHT NOW, is sitting at the right hand of the Father, interceding for the saints. He is NOT being continually offered for sin for all eternity. The effectiveness in the sacrifice is due to the death of the sacrificed, not the act or process of being sacrificed.

If Jesus is still in the process of being sacrificed, the sacrifice is ineffective because death has not yet occurred. It’s not the dying that works, it’s the death, past tense.


208 posted on 05/21/2012 2:41:19 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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