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To: stfassisi; CynicalBear; boatbums

I did not say that the cup was removed from the mass entirely.

That charge could only have been made by reading more into my statement that it said.

I did specify within that post that the cup was not offered to the communicants, giving anyone with any kind of reading comprehension more than enough information to understand what I was talking about.

FWIW, it’s only the blood that procures forgiveness. It’s by His stripes, His broken body, which we are healed. The body is for our healing. The blood is for our forgiveness.

That is why they are not interchangeable.


1,324 posted on 06/05/2012 8:31:30 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; CynicalBear
I think in an effort to pile on and obfuscate yours and our point about the blood being the payment for sin and the fact that, for the time we were there, the Catholic Church did not include the cup (which was representative of Christ's blood) for those who received the Eucharist. That was our point and it was a sidetrack to change the subject that the cup is now offered in the observance. The point all along was how coincidental it seemed that Catholicism downplays the efficacy of the once-for-all blood sacrifice for ALL sins and the absence of the cup of wine in the Lord's Supper observance.

It is INDEED the blood that makes atonement for the soul and we have been redeemed by the price Christ paid on our behalf. That should NEVER be diminished by anyone, anywhere and the observance that we participate in - eating of the bread and drinking of the cup - is done in remembrance that we HAVE received Him, we have believed on Him, and we ARE saved. No one denomination has the corner on the purpose of this Christian tradition and to state that because there is not a special person to conjure up or confect the presence of Christ in the "elements" is not Scriptural. The redemption that is in Christ Jesus is available to ALL who place their trust in Him. No one is left out. God offers it to ALL because He so loved the world and whosoever believes in Christ HAS everlasting life.

1,327 posted on 06/05/2012 10:33:23 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: metmom; Natural Law
I did specify within that post that the cup was not offered to the communicants

You said it was removed and did not specify that the cup was still consecrated and drank by Priests which can mislead people who don't know the Catholic Faith to think the cup was completely removed

Perhaps next time you can be more specific in your posts,dear sister.

1,339 posted on 06/06/2012 2:37:50 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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