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To: boatbums
"I don't think that is how the rules work."

I never claimed to be acting within the rules. In basketball we would call that in intentional foul. I just saved the thin skinned the trouble of tattling.

Accusing me of lying is not a good defense of anyone. I never said that the cup was always available to the laity, I am only saying that the cup was NEVER absent from the Liturgy as was suggested.

You are smart enough to connect the dots.....what public health crisis broke out in Europe at the same time the Church restricted the cup to the laity? FYI - Bishops still have the authority to suspend the practice when public health is at risk. It happened in this country in some diocese during the H1N1 Pandemic scare.

(So I can attribute your leaving the Church at age 16 to an act of teenage indiscretion and defiance?)

Peace be with you.

1,292 posted on 06/05/2012 2:24:46 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law; boatbums
You are smart enough to connect the dots.....what public health crisis broke out in Europe at the same time the Church restricted the cup to the laity? FYI - Bishops still have the authority to suspend the practice when public health is at risk. It happened in this country in some diocese during the H1N1 Pandemic scare.

That's just an excuse. There are disposable plastic cups that are used widely within non-Catholic denominations for hygiene reasons.

I'm sure the cup manufacturers would not object to the added business from the Catholic church should they decide to celebrate communion with the laity the way Christ commanded without drinking out of communal cup.

1,296 posted on 06/05/2012 2:36:33 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Natural Law; metmom
I never claimed to be acting within the rules. In basketball we would call that in intentional foul. I just saved the thin skinned the trouble of tattling.

Funny thing is, most of us don't feel the "need" to tattle to the RM. He/she is more than adequate to do what needs to be done to keep order within the forum. That you felt no qualms about accusing another of lying, attributing motives and flagrantly breaking the rules only proves you must feel you are above them. You aren't.

(So I can attribute your leaving the Church at age 16 to an act of teenage indiscretion and defiance?)

You may not. Just like accusing people of lying you do not have the right to pretend to read anothers mind. I have always stated in my testimony here how old I was when God revealed the truth of the Gospel of the grace of God to me when I read John 10:27-30:

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.

The Holy Spirit opened my eyes and my heart to the truth of the Gospel that Jesus gives to us eternal life and we shall NEVER perish. I knew then and there that the truth I had been seeking all my life was found and I also knew I would not find that truth in the Roman Catholic Church. All these discussions over the years only reconfirm that my decision was the right one. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share it again.

1,306 posted on 06/05/2012 3:04:08 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Natural Law; boatbums
>> You are smart enough to connect the dots.....<<

Yes she is. See post 1282 and realize that the comment “what public health crisis broke out in Europe at the same time the Church restricted the cup to the laity? FYI - Bishops still have the authority to suspend the practice when public health is at risk. It happened in this country in some diocese during the H1N1 Pandemic scare.” is lame.

“when public health is at risk” my foot. When Bishops in the church say “Bread alone will do for Communion at most Masses.” It’s not because of “health risks”.

1,307 posted on 06/05/2012 3:08:54 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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