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To: boatbums
It seems that not many Catholics can tolerate the fact that some of us have legitimate and theological reasons to leave

I don't see modernism as a legitimate theological reason to leave. Certain theological points of protestantism is exactly that,modernism, that does not resemble early Christians pre reformation.

That said, most of mainstream protestantism still adheres to Catholic Doctrine like Infant Baptism,Divinity of Christ etc..

This very church, which at one time had temporal power and did not hesitate to use it to murder and plunder all who dared to rebel

The church did not kill anyone,people kill, and there is no Catholic dogma that condones killing anyone for not agreeing with Catholic Theology. I could point the same finger at the reformers and protestants that killed because they interpret the Bible for allowing it as well as you well know

Why not allow people to speak, let others consider their words and proofs and let the Holy Spirit do what HE does best - convict the world of sin, righteousness and judgment?

You are being allowed to speak,I too pray the Holy Spirit opens the hearts as well and also to see error in people like William Webster in his theological misrepresentations of the Church Fathers.

1,208 posted on 06/04/2012 4:32:42 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi; boatbums
"Why not allow people to speak..."

The problem non-Catholics have with the Church isn't censorship, it is the Church not allowing just anyone to speak for the Church. Imagine if we did, we would have more than 33,000 official versions of the Catechism and rampant parish shopping.

Its funny that all of those folks who have at least four Protestant churches (the church I used to attend, the church I'm attending now, the church we are checking out, and that other church I won't set foot in again) all poll as Protestant in all of the surveys we see referenced here and all profess lockstep unanimity on doctrinal issues in this forum.

Peace be with you.

CC to boatbums, not because this post is directed at her, but because I lifted one of her quotes from stfassisi's thread)

1,210 posted on 06/04/2012 4:59:44 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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