Posted on 05/17/2012 5:40:57 PM PDT by Gamecock
Watch yourself there!
Metmom is Holy Spirit filled.."The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:.
The cup was NOT served to the congregation for centuries, by the Church’s own history.
They did NOT serve communion to the congregation as Christ instructed it be done.
They were disobedient to the clear and direct command of Jesus Himself.
The FAITHFUL are only those who abide by GOD'S WORD ALONE - HIS WORDS REIGN with them and they will never listen to another and NO ONE can snatch them from HIS HAND.
So watch who you say who is rejecting TRUTH as there is ONLY ONE TRUTH/JESUS THE WORD. JESUS IS THE SAVIOR!! HE is the bread of life, The WAY, THE TRUTH, THE LIFE. HE is the cornerstone of HIS CHURCH, only those who hear and obey HIS WORD ALONE He calls HIS OWN. That's faithful!!
IT IS ALL ABOUT JESUS!!
Since by your own admission you do not believe that the Real Presence of Christ is present in the Eucharist you really look a little foolish pursuing this argument. It smacks of baiting. If you really believe it is the clear and direct command of Jesus Himself you would be partaking of both species weekly.
Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.
A bloodless sacrifice is USELESS.
Jesus is currently sitting at the right hand of the Father waiting for His enemies to be made His footstool.
He is NOT in heaven being sacrificed.
Holy Spirit inspired Scripture tells us that.
So I either believe the Catholic church which tells us that Jesus is being continually offered as a sacrifice in heaven, or I believe the Holy Spirit inspired Scripture that Jesus died once for all and is now seated in heaven at God's right hand waiting for His enemies to be made His footstool .
It's kind of a no brainer there. I KNOW God can't lie.
Don’t you get it?
Only the Catholic church can properly confect God and then turn Him back into Him again.
And there you have it folks. Jesus isn't enough.
Perhaps you reached your max tonight and there is too much truth to understand anything disagreeable to you?
And instead mind wonders to Plato, ransom note inspired by a George Carlin special and a bong hit.
Right! And I know it from my own history w/the catholic church.
JESUS SAID ‘ONCE for all’ and satan says ‘no, every day at my command’.
It smacks of deception.
I have always been curious why they withheld the cup from parishioners and why only the priests could partake. Anyone know?
I took communion once in RC church back in the 70’s where the parish only received the bread. I will have to ask my DH’s experience growing up in the RC church and parochial school.
“But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you".
“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you. Even sinners do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful."
Luke 6:27-36
Why should I? Something has to be within you that provokes you.
love you for your weaknesses.
Satan might think I'm weak but I am STRONG 'in Christ'. It's all about JESUS, not me.
It is ALL about JESUS and what HE already DID as IT IS FINISHED
God's WORD Reigns as IT is the FINAL Authority. Thank YOU, JESUS!
Actually I didn’t know any better being born into Catholicism. I went to catholic grammar and HS and mass every day before school - the church being attached to the school so it was a requirement. We only knew what we were taught and all my relatives and friends were catholic. So there was no one around with Truth to bring it up. But why the priest were only allowed I don’t have a clue.
The ONLY sacrifice that we Christians offer to Almighty God is our sacrifice of PRAISE and we don't need a priest to do that:
Hebrews 13:15
Through Jesus, therefore, let us continually offer to God a sacrifice of praise — the fruit of lips that openly profess his name.
The BLOODY sacrifice of Christ FOR our sins is DONE. There is NO MORE A NEED for a blood sacrifice. When you believed in Christ and received Him as your savior, your sins were blotted out and God says he will remember them NO MORE. He does not judge us according to our sins ANYMORE. We stand holy and blameless before Him because of Christ. We praise him because of what HIS grace did for us. The sacrifice of praise is what God wants from us - NOT a replay of Christ's sacrifice. Believing on Him is receiving him is eating and drinking him is being born again is being saved for eternity. THIS is the TRUE faith!
“The sacrifice of praise is what God wants from us - NOT a replay of Christ’s sacrifice. Believing on Him is receiving him is eating and drinking him is being born again is being saved for eternity. THIS is the TRUE faith!”
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Trying to find the simplest explanation of the Holy Mass.
If someone else has one, please share. When former Protestant minister Scott Hahn attended his first Mass, He was astounded, Scott said...this is the Book of Revelation.
from: http://www.catholicthinker.net
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Protestants have many arguments against the Eucharist and the Mass. They understand, correctly, that these things are the very heart of Catholicism (“Destroy the Mass, destroy the Church” – Luther). To touch upon perhaps the greatest error (or most twisted teaching): Christ IS NOT “re-crucified” at the Mass (a ridiculous and purposefully ignorant teaching): rather, Christ’s single, timeless Sacrifice on Calvary is “made present” and presented to the Father. (Such a concept was readily to familiar to the early Christians, most of them Jews who considered their Passover sacrifice to be the “re-living” of the Exodus, not just its remembrance.) God, of course, lies outside the bounds of time; all time is stretched out before Him to see. Because HUMANS OFFEND HIM CONTINUOUSLY, AND IN THE PRESENT, it is fitting that His just anger be appeased continually by Christ’s propitiatory Sacrifice.
And this is exactly what we see in Hebrews and REVELATION, understood by the first Christians as describing the Heavenly liturgy: the Lamb of God is presented continually to the Father, a propitiatory and eternal Sacrifice....
Don’t you get it?
Only the Catholic church can properly confect God and then turn Him back into Him again.
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It’s comments like this...the reason why not many replies.
“He overlooks what is described. Jesus broke the bread before ottering it to the disciples, saying “This”.
“This” was not the unbroken loaf (masculine) but a piece or a fragment of the loaf (neuter).
Hence a fragment or piece of a loaf was literally “a break”.
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What are you saying brother, translation? I am serious.
The fact, most Christians believe in the Real Presence
and everyone in Heaven does...this fact, doesn’t it inspire
a change in non-Catholic Christians, maybe...
How so? Isn’t this what the RC’s have been insisting on?
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