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And the passionate (first against Christians and then for them) Paul’s words justifying Himself - in which he acknowledged it sounded like speaking as a fool, (2Cor. 11:16,23) was driven by his love for this most troublesome of his churches, (2Cor. 12:11-15) imploring the Corinthians to come to their senses, rather than following after shameless self-promoting “false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ,” (2 Corinthians 11:13) who excluded Paul as being part of the class of apostles, and who hijacked the church.

Sometimes parents have to remind their rebellious offspring who birthed them, changed their diapers, and wisely counsel and guided, when in their pride they spurn their counsel and listen to vain philosophers.

The Lord’s own appeal to the Jews to come to its senses and recognize Him as the one true God was also done out of love, not insecurity (as atheists charge), while the charge of “massaged” Bible texts is part of the liberal school of Biblical interpretation, which much or most of RCM subscribes to.

But i think there are many RCs who resent Paul as he seems too much like a Protestant: an evangelistic preacher who emphasized faith as appropriating justification, though a faith that effected obedience, (Rm. 2:13; 4:1-7) and only ordained bishops/elders, (Titus 1:5-7) and did not pray to the departed, etc., and emphasized the body of Christ as being the church. (1Cor. 11:17-33ff)

And who exampled much independence from the other apostles in his preaching, writing and ministry, and was very restrictive in his affirmation of them, and who even rebuked Peter, and while implicitly affirming Peter as having prominence among the apostles, yet he never directed or otherwise reminded the churches under his care to look to Peter as their particular supreme corporate magistrate, and did not even mention him among his many friends in Rome. (Rm. 16)

Moreover, the primary Christian theologian and human author of most of the N.T. never actually mentioned Mary the mother of Jesus - who, in the gospel tradition is quite marginal - is literally emphasized more devotionally by many Catholics than the Lord Jesus.


108 posted on 05/18/2012 11:40:45 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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“Moreover, the primary Christian theologian and human author of most of the N.T. never actually mentioned Mary the mother of Jesus - who, in the gospel tradition is quite marginal - is literally emphasized more devotionally by many Catholics than the Lord Jesus.”

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Daniel,

Mary knew the Gospel writers. It is her humility always
pointing to Our Lord. The Gospel is about Jesus Christ. There are some verses in the Old Testament which speak of Mary but mainly...

God’s revelation about who Mary is and you see even in our time would come LATER. In these 2000 years...via the Church, the saints and prophecy (private revelation).

I keep sharing do not take it personal. The “reformers”
mistakenly follow the evil one Satan, distancing themselves
from Catholicism by rejecting Mary. You didn’t decide it!~

Mary can’t appear to Protestants yet, though God can make exceptions yes, because you all believe HERESIES. Mary will appear, maybe (MO)...I wish...at the Great Warning which is “soon” but for sure after the Great Warning she will appear to you all. Non-Catholic Christians will
have accepted the faith. Sadly, there will be a group
who will still say no.

She is your mother, everyone’s mother...believe in her
love and help now. Speak to her in prayer. It would make Our Lord very happy. There is a Scripture verse, new to me,
from the Book of Ecclesiasticus:

3:5
And he that honoureth his mother is as one that layeth up a treasure.

It applies personally in regards to your earthly mother
and your heavenly mother, Mary. Also, think of the “his” as Jesus. It’s really true.


113 posted on 05/18/2012 12:21:29 PM PDT by stpio
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