“As I understand your answer: You are now admitting >you are >not infallible. That means you >can be >wrong.”
I have said from the very beginning that I am a sinner, I never once claimed otherwise. I’m fallible but God’s word is truth(infallible).(Jn. 17:17) Your trouble is not with me but God’s word. You put the pope, the cathoic church and it’s teachings above God’s word. (Mark 8:38 “For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels”)
“Swampfox101, you have cited a number of passages from the Bible based on >your >fallible interpretation.”
Simple yes or no question to you? Is God’s word, the Bible, infallible? You seem to really struggle with the answer to this question.
“God walked Holy Lands building a Church. God promised that the gates of hell would never prevail against His Church.”
Jesus walked the Holy Land preaching and teaching forgivness and salvation and establishing His Holy, Spiritual Kingdom. His kingdom, His Church was not of this world, it was Holy and Spiritual. Something that neither the Jews nor the Romans understood. Sadly many people today don’t understand it either. (John 18:36 “Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”)
Matt 4:16-18(The people who sat in darkness have seen a great light,
And upon those who sat in the region and shadow of death
Light has dawned.”[a]
17 From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
“The Bible & history actually proves that the Roman Catholic Church is the True Church set up by Jesus Christ.”
The “ONE TRUE CHURCH” is the one established on the Day of Pentecost by Christ himself. It is His Church, the Lord’s Chruch. As for history of the Church, you don’t wanna go three because the history of the Catholic Church isn’t too stellar.
“You quote the Bible quite a bit & because you say it, you announce to all of us >your interpretation must be true.”
I quote the Bible because they are the words of God and His Son. Yes I quote them as truth because they are “TRUTH”. You never quote Bible, Do you believe it, the Bible, to be God’s word and infallible or not? I believe I have asked you this queston several times. Do you believe the Catholic Church and what it teaches is infallible? Do you believe the teachings of the Catholic are superior to the teachings of God’s word ?
“Thank you for admitting that >your interpretation may be wrong & that you are fallible.”
I’ve never said otherwise. But God’s word is always infallible and truthful, that’s why I quote it and not my onw words. How bout you who do u quote? The pope? The Catholic Churhc? Are they fallible or infallible? Just curius...! What is “TRUTH” to you? If God’s word is not TRUTH, what is?
“Swampfox101, your interpretation is only correct when it is completely compatible with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.”
NO, my interpretations is correct when it comports with scripture or God’s word. God’s word is TRUTH not the fallible pope or the fallible Catholic Church. (Mark 13:30&31 “ Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.”)
“http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2813123/posts.
Here is a start about the Roman Catholic Church being the one true Church. The person posting as ‘salvation’ can provide all the links you need to start learning about the Catholic Church.”
I know a better place to go and find God’s ONE TRUE CHURCH it called the Bible. God’s Word. Truth. Sorry you just can’t top that with any website. Try bible.com. You’ll be much happier there once you free yourself from the teaching of man.
“Please go to the Vatican website & look up the information contained in this post:”
I have NO NEED to go to the vbaticans’s website. Why would I want to do that when I have God’s word at the tip of my fingers? I don’t need indoctrination from the Catholic Church, I have TRUTH in the scriptrues.
“http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2875690/posts.
God gives >everyone the opportunity & the sufficient grace to get into Heaven. It’s a teaching of the Catholic Church.”
God wishes that none perish.(JN. 3:16) That why he gave us His Word, the Bible it is to lead us to obedience of our faith. (Rom. 1:5 5 Through Him we have received grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for His name,”)
“You will notice that ‘boatbums’ name appears in the last ‘thread.’”
Some folks want to just argue & not try to understand a Church that has been here on Earth for >two thousands years”.
I will not argue that point with you but I will not agree that the teaching of the Catholic Church are all biblical because clearly some of them aren’t.
“The person posting this thread has >numerous teachings about the Catholic Church & the Doctrines of the Church. Anyone that is >truly interested in the Catholic Church can ask for her to post a link to information.”
The TRUE DOCTRINES of the TRUE CHURCH can only be found in God’s word.
“Also, That’s a good Moniker. All I know about the Swampfox is from the Walt Disney movies. I’ve never seen the Mel Gibson movie. However, Mel Gibson’s movie about ‘The Passion of The Christ’ has an extraordinary portrayal of the Stations of the Cross.”
Does it really matter?
Thank you for your reply.
All comments have proven that a very large number of people think they are really an ‘infallible pope’ of the scriptures.
There are literally thousands of different churches claiming God’s word is true. Each with a different interpretation of God’s true word.
Within those thousands of different churches literally >millions of people >argue about the true meaning of scripture.
The point of my question (are you infallible?) is to have you understand that you seem to be claiming to be ‘pope of the scriptures.’
To cite a passage in the Bible such as: “Jesus is Lord” is an actual Truth. However, to carry it further and claim that Jesus did not establish a Church with authority here on earth is to use a truth to create a falsehood.
Did God a build a Church on earth for people? Did God place people in charge of His Church? Did God put one person in charge of the Church to speak with infallible authority?
I say: Yes! & that person is the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church.
One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic Church.
Jesus Christ did not walk the earth to sow confusion. Jesus Christ build one authentic Church & the Church would have a singular voice through both time & geography.
You quote numerous Biblical verses: But at the end, everything you say can be summed-up by saying, ‘you seem to think you’re pope-of-the-scriptures.’
I believe that the true understanding of the scriptures is conveyed by the Roman Catholic Church.
You say you be a Bible-based Christian. = Please read once again the events about Noah’s ark. You may notice that there was only one ark. There were not numerous little boats bobbing about in different directions.
Remember: It’s One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic Church.
The FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH is important to ALL Christians.
+ I recommend you go to the Vatican website and read The Catholic Catechism paragraph 766,
“The Church is born primarily of Christ’s total self-giving for our salvation, anticipated in the institution of the Eucharist and fulfilled on the Cross.
“The origin and growth of the Church are symbolized by the blood and water which flowed from the open side of the crucified Jesus” “For it was from the side of Christ as he slept the sleep of death upon the Cross that there came forth the ‘wondrous sacrament of the whole Church.’”
As Eve was formed from the sleeping Adam’s side, so the Church was >born from the pierced heart of Christ hanging dead on the Cross.
Beautiful, absolutely.
Numerous Christians both Catholics & Protestants think the Church was ‘created’ on Pentecost Sunday. When actually, The Church was born from the Heart of Jesus Christ on the Cross.