“Swampfox101, you be the one NOT NOT answering questions. I ask you: how come >”
Again you deflect and don’t answer. (1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear;)
“you think your interpretation of Scripture is infallible? You do NOT NOT answer that question.”
When I have stated something, I gave you chapter and verse to back up what I am saying. What did I write that was not biblical? What verse what taken out of context. I am willing to search any verse in the Bible you send me.
“You quote all these Bible verses that to >you are relevant to infallibility of the Pope.”
I also quoted verses that are relevant to me, you, and ALL CHRISTIANS. I quoted those verses from God’s word to let you know that I wasn’t just spouting something I had heard. Verses like John 1:1, John 14:16, John 16:13 and others. These were quoted for the purpose of helping you understand if you chose to look at those scriptures.
There are other comments that are posted that speak >directly to God’s plan for a Church.
People make up God’s Church and God speaks to His Church(people) through His Son and only His Son today. (Hebrews 1:1) If God is writing something that speaks directly to God’s plan for the Church, does that not include me and other Christians? If I am a Christian, am I not part of the Church?
“Please read the Bible. You may notice: Jesus Christ did not carry around a big sack of Bibles in the Holy Land.”
Jesus didn’t have to carry a stack of Bibles around, he was the word. (John 1:1) Do you not understand that Jesus was the word become flesh? ( John 1:14 “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.”)
Jesus knew that the apostles that He chose would not remember everything that He taught them, so he made them a promise.(John 14:26 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.”) Jesus sent His own Spirit to guide these men in writing His gospel. Truth (John 17:17)
“Jesus Christ built a Church. Jesus Christ told the >first Pope,”
Where in the “Whole” of the Bible does it say Peter was a Pope? Could you please give me book, chapter, and verse. In fact, could you please give me any book, chapter, or verse in the bible that uses the word pope?
“‘on you I will build my Church.’”
The Church wasn’t built on Peter, it was built on His cofession of Jesus being the Christ.(Matthew 16;17-19 “Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed[a] in heaven.”)
Why? Because Peter recognized who Jesus was..! The Church was built on Jesus. Jesus is the chief corner stone, not Peter.(Luke 20:17 “Then He looked at them and said, “What then is this that is written:‘The stone which the builders rejectedHas become the chief cornerstone’?)
Do you honestly think God would build His Church upon a mere man? Especially a man that denied His own savior just a few short yrs. earlier...!
Please call up the Pope of the Catholic Church. Ask the Pope, ‘How many Priests are in the Catholic Church?’
God’s Church is a royal priest hood. All christians are priest and Jesus in our High Priest. (1 Peter 2:9 “But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;”)
I don’t need a any man to tell me that. I have God’s word. (Hebrews 4:13-15 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.)
I’ll answer for the Pope: The Pope would say there is only >one high-Priest in the Catholic Church & He is Jesus Christ.
And ur Pope would be correct. Their is only ONE HIGH PRIEST. But you don’t even need the pope to tell you that, you have God’s word.
All the Priests here on earth stand in for Jesus Christ & carry on the work of Jesus Christ which is building up His body The >Church.
All Christians are priest and our job as priest is to fulfill the commission Jesus gave us to do. (Matthew 28:18-20 “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.)
All the human-Priests would say, Jesus Christ gave authority to the first >Apostles. & That authority has been handed on >unbroken from human-Priest to human-Priest for >two thousands years.
The keys that were given to Peter were given to all the apostles. Paul and others were NO less apostles that Peter. Peter was not in any way over the other apostles. They were all equal. Just as all priest are equal today. God is NO Respector of any man. (2 Cor. 11:5 5 For I consider that I am not at all inferior to the most eminent apostles. )
I keep calling you the >pope of your church because you do NOT NOT tell us the title you have in >your church
My title is believer. I am a believer in Jesus Christ, I am a mere man, a Christian. I have NO title or position.
that gives you the authority to interpret scripture infallibly.
I don’t interpret anything, I just take God at His word. If God throuh the scripture says His Son is our High Priest, I believe it, Period. No more no less. I just read God’s word and I believe it. How bout you? Is God’s word good enough for you or do you needd more? Do you think God’s word can be improve upon? Just curious....! I believe and obey, do you....?
Some folks are known as the Grand-Poobah or the walking Urim-Thummim of the New New covenant church.
In my church that role is reserved for Jesus Christ? How about you? What man in ur Church in your “Grand-Poobah?
What is exactly is your Moniker in your church?
I”m just a pilgrim a sojourner,( 1 Peter 2:11 Beloved, I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul,”) a sinner.”(”Rom. 3;23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”) How bout you? What is exactly your moniker in your Church?
Swampfox101 doesn’t sound like a very biblical title.
NO but it is patriotic.
When you ask me ‘What do you believe?’ My answer is: ‘I believe what the Catholic Church teaches.’
I believe what the Bible teaches. It is from God and it has the power to save. (Rom. 1:16 & 17 “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,[a] for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.””)
There are a series of teaching posted by salvation on freerepublic about the Catholic Church & its beliefs.
I have seen some of them.
What we do NOT NOT know here on this thread is “Where do you get your >authority
I have NO authority, I just read God’s word and quote it. The authority is all God’s no mine.
that >you can state >infallible truths about scripture.”
Becaus God’s word is infallible. I believe God and I believe His word, and I believe His word is truth. Do you have evidence to the contary? (John 17:17 “Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. “)
Be direct, please tell us where do you get your >authority to speak with infallibility?
God’s word. The Bible. Where do you get yours? From God or From men or a group of men?
As I understand your answer: You are now admitting >you are >not infallible. That means you >can be >wrong.
Swampfox101, you have cited a number of passages from the Bible based on >your >fallible interpretation.
God walked Holy Lands building a Church. God promised that the gates of hell would never prevail against His Church.
The Bible & history actually proves that the Roman Catholic Church is the True Church set up by Jesus Christ.
You quote the Bible quite a bit & because you say it, you announce to all of us >your interpretation must be true. Thank you for admitting that >your interpretation may be wrong & that you are fallible.
Swampfox101, your interpretation is only correct when it is completely compatible with the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2813123/posts.
Here is a start about the Roman Catholic Church being the one true Church. The person posting as ‘salvation’ can provide all the links you need to start learning about the Catholic Church.
Please go to the Vatican website & look up the information contained in this post:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2875690/posts.
God gives >everyone the opportunity & the sufficient grace to get into Heaven. It’s a teaching of the Catholic Church.
You will notice that ‘boatbums’ name appears in the last ‘thread.’
Some folks want to just argue & not try to understand a Church that has been here on Earth for >two thousands years.
The person posting this thread has >numerous teachings about the Catholic Church & the Doctrines of the Church. Anyone that is >truly interested in the Catholic Church can ask for her to post a link to information.
Also, That’s a good Moniker. All I know about the Swampfox is from the Walt Disney movies. I’ve never seen the Mel Gibson movie. However, Mel Gibson’s movie about ‘The Passion of The Christ’ has an extraordinary portrayal of the Stations of the Cross.