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To: wmfights

The only way to God is through Christ. Jews born before the time of Christ may very well have an opportunity to accept Christ. Those afterwards need to accept Christ, as did the Apostles, who were Jews.

“God’s Chosen People” are those who follow Him. Jews, with the knowledge of Christ, do not follow God.


3 posted on 04/30/2012 8:23:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

“Jews, with the knowledge of Christ, do not follow God.”

Back in the O.T. they had knowledge of God, but did not follow Him either lots of times. (Baal worship, the Golden Calf, etc.) Yes they were punished (exile, wandering for 40 years, etc.) but they were still God’s chosen people.

I think they still are God’s chosen people, even if they do not follow God today. I didn’t always think that way.


5 posted on 04/30/2012 8:37:02 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: ConservativeMind

Yeah, they worship the One True God and missed the critical turn. Many of them (we called them Messianic Jews, don’t know what they consider themselves) will find the truth and so Israel, (a remnant is saved) unto perpetuity.

Meanwhile, salvation has come to the Gentiles..


6 posted on 04/30/2012 8:37:02 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Jews born before the time of Christ may very well have an opportunity to accept Christ

We read in Hebrews 11 of Jews who had faith.

Not all Israel had faith. But, like Isaiah, these Hebrews 11 Jews trusted in a coming Messiah even though they did not know his name would be Jesus. This was enough.

One must have faith in the righteousness provided by God to be saved. It's an individual thing. Not all individuals of any nation or tribe will be saved just because of blood heritage.

9 posted on 04/30/2012 8:57:57 PM PDT by what's up
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To: ConservativeMind
"Jews, with the knowledge of Christ, do not follow God."

Jesus is God, the second person of the Trinity.

11 posted on 04/30/2012 9:31:20 PM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world that He did not send a book.)
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To: ConservativeMind
The only way to God is through Christ.

I have yet to meet and discuss theology with any dispensationalists who would disagree. I think where supersessionalists "miss the boat" is by assuming that because God has brought us to Him through His Son that the Jews aren't still in His plan and won't be converted. I believe the vehicle God uses to convert the Jews is the Tribulation.

23 posted on 05/01/2012 6:16:27 AM PDT by wmfights
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