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"Yet that is exactly what you are doing when you chalk it all up to "they're just poorly catechized, poor things, and they just don't know any better" or that the criticism is based on hate or unforgiveness."

Please do not make this thread about me.

When demonstrably false positions are represented as the doctrines and dogmas of the Church and are substantiated by nothing more than unverifiable anecdotes, repeated urban legends, excerpts from forbidden websites, attempts to represent the actions of a single or small group of individuals as representative of the billion plus Catholics and the writings so-called Protestant experts on Catholicism I can only conclude that the persons making those false statements are either unknowingly in error or are being intentionally false. I have and will continue to give them benefit of the doubt. Most are not evil, just wrong so I will continue to address the error.

I am not surprised that so many choose to hate the Church. It was predicted. They hate the Church because they hated Him. I will pray that the obsessively anti-Catholics discover the truth, not so that they become a practicing Catholics, but so that they are not basing their decisions and beliefs on error.

Peace be with you

Right...we "hate" the Catholic Church because those of us who once were members also "hate" our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ??? No, we LOVE the Lord Jesus Christ and we ARE part of His church, the Body of Christ. What we hate is an accursed Gospel that leads the lost away from Christ.

Let us not forget what stared this latest volley, your accusations of gross mischaracterization and lies about the Catholic Church and when asked to state what those were, you backed off. This is not making it personal but simply requesting some semblance of proof for such a claim. It may give some people comfort to pretend that anyone who dares criticize the Roman Catholic Church does so out of hate or unforgiveness but it isn't honest and it isn't truthful. I would hope all of us truly desire for the truth to be known about the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ and that our motivations be always out of love.

When demonstrably false positions are represented as the doctrines and dogmas of the Church and are substantiated by nothing more than unverifiable anecdotes, repeated urban legends, excerpts from forbidden websites, attempts to represent the actions of a single or small group of individuals as representative of the billion plus Catholics and the writings so-called Protestant experts on Catholicism

Interesting in that almost all of what I post from is from here.......

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

Others quote the "church fathers" Catholics love to lean on in support of Catholic doctrine.