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To: boatbums
"No, it IS nonsense and it has NOTHING at all to do with a person valuing creature comforts more than they do the Lord Jesus."

Would you willingly suffer an eternity in the fire and brimstone of hell if it pleased God? If the answer is no then your understanding of love is hypothetical and your love of God is conditional and incomplete.

252 posted on 05/15/2012 5:31:45 PM PDT by Natural Law (Mary was the face that God chose for Himself.)
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To: Natural Law
Would you willingly suffer an eternity in the fire and brimstone of hell if it pleased God? If the answer is no then your understanding of love is hypothetical and your love of God is conditional and incomplete.

Basing your understanding of the kind of love God expects with hypotheticals is nonsense. That as well as the kind of God we love. Fortunately for us God does not leave us to wonder about hypotheticals, We love him because He first loved us. (I John 4:19) and Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. (I John 4:10)

With Jesus Christ making complete and total propitiation for our sins, we need never have to contemplate an eternity in the fire and brimstone of hell. All, who receive the gift of eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ, have been redeemed from the threat of eternal damnation FOREVER and:

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. (Galatians 2:20)

253 posted on 05/15/2012 7:25:50 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Natural Law; boatbums; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; ...
Would you willingly suffer an eternity in the fire and brimstone of hell if it pleased God?

If it pleased God?!?!?! It doesn't please God to send anyone to hell. What kind of God do you serve? (No need to answer, really. I know what kind of god Catholics serve because that is the one I was taught about as a Catholics and the one I rejected for the true God, the one of the Bible who is as He knows Himself to be, not a lopsided construct used to cow people into submission to a church.)

*if it pleased God*...... That's a false premise if there ever was one. A hypothetical question that has no basis in reality, but Catholics do love to play the pious martyr, don't they? I guess it comes from all that Catholic teaching that somehow we can earn forgiveness by self-abasement and suffering for God enough, as if our suffering can remit sins and please God.

Well, any god that our suffering pleases is not the God of the Bible.

And Catholics wonder why people reject the Catholic God.

If the answer is no then your understanding of love is hypothetical and your love of God is conditional and incomplete.

Not as incomplete as the understanding of God that someone could actually think up something so ludicrous.

EVERYBODY'S love of God is conditional and incomplete. No human is capable of the kind of love and devotion to God that He deserves and anyone who claims otherwise is deceiving themselves. It's only through the work of the Holy Spirit in us that enables us to be or do anything that pleases God.

254 posted on 05/15/2012 7:50:48 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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