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To: MarkBsnr
And the Pope is the Bishop Of ????????????????

The diocese of Rome. There is a bishop heading every diocese. But surely you know this.

The city of Rome is not the diocese of Rome. And surely you know that too.

You know and I know that I know the distinction. Still, the Catholic Church is frequently identified with Rome especially prior to 1870 when they lost their last armed war.

Perhaps it would be better to eliminate all "official" identification with "Rome", "Roman" or the like.

For example:

CCC
2089 Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. "Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him."

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm The ROMAN Pontiff.

393 posted on 05/09/2012 2:27:46 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian)
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To: OLD REGGIE
You know and I know that I know the distinction. Still, the Catholic Church is frequently identified with Rome especially prior to 1870 when they lost their last armed war.

There is the Roman Catholic branch as distinct from, say the Melkites. Yet the Pope is the patriarch of the Latin branch, as opposed to the Constantinople branch, or the Russian Orthodox branch. Who identifies the Catholic Church as Rome? Catholics? Or antiCatholics? Or non Catholics without opinion? The Pontiff (bridge builder) is simply the first amongst equals of the bishops. The only real squabble we have is the definition of first amongst equals. I pray that that is settled in my lifetime.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm The ROMAN Pontiff.

Sure, and the diocese I was born and raised in is the diocese of Hamilton. The bishop is the bishop of Hamilton. The bishops of the early church started to be associated with a city or area in the first century. The patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church is no different from the patriarch of the Roman Catholic Church.

395 posted on 05/09/2012 6:21:38 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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