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To: stpio; metmom; boatbums; RnMomof7; Iscool; caww; smvoice; presently no screen name; Quix

The words of Genesis 3:15 in the first Bible were altered drastically because of the rejection of Mary.

I have posted before the NAB rendering of this, which is of the church you want to convert us to, while you are at odds with your own official Bible:

KJV: Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

DRB: Gen 3:15 I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

NAB: I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; They will strike at your head, while you strike at their heel.

Because “the Son of God was revealed to destroy the works of the devil” (1 Jn 3:8), the passage was understood as the first promise of a redeemer for fallen humankind, the protoevangelium. Irenaeus of Lyons (ca. A.D. 130–200), in his Against Heresies 5.21.1, followed by several other Fathers of the Church, interpreted the verse as referring to Christ, and cited Gal 3:19 and 4:4 to support the reference

Meanwhile, do a search on the word (hû' / hı̂y') used for “it” in “it shall bruise thy head and find out how many times it is translated as “she” versus “he” or “it” and i think you find out who is changing the Bible to fit their doctrine.

The Church canonized Scripture and it follows, God gave her the same authority to interpret it.

Why do you simply reiterate an assertion as if that made it true, and ignore my refutation of it? As said, it took Rome over 1400 years to finally provide an indisputable canon, as the weight of Scripture is not critical for her doctrines. And in addition, even being the instrument and steward of Holy Writ does not make such the assured infallible interpreters of it, and if it did then the church would have needed to submit to those who sat in the seat of Moses in all that it taught.

...by maintaining God’s providence with regard to copying, a person claims something which is not written in Scripture, and therefore, by the very definition of Sola Scriptura, cannot serve as a rule of faith

That is a straw man SS, as this does not require explicit texts to constitute Scriptural teaching, and the preservation of the Word of God is promised in principle, in which God preservation is promised, and the “the word of the Lord/God” normally was subsequently written, and as Scripture alone is the only transcendent and material revelation that is wholly inspired of God then it is the assured word of God, versus amorphous oral tradition, which is not codified, and by nature is supremely subject to undetectable corruption, and must be subject to examination by Scripture.

He safeguarded its oral transmission as well (recall 2 Thessalonians 2:14 [15]

That is not speaking about eons-old mysterious nebulous oral tradition, but something that was know, and could have been written, as was the norm for truth called “the word of the Lord/God.”

And Paul upheld Scripture as the standard for obedience and testing truth claims, which it is abundantly evidenced to be, and it manner was to “reason out of the Scriptures,” and his preaching was proven thereby. (Acts 17:2).

And unlike Rome, Paul was manifestly Divinely inspired preacher and writer, yet preachers today can call their hearers to obey their oral words, as substantiated by Scripture.

It was not until later on that some of the oral tradition was committed to writing

Much of Scripture was first oral, but Scripture is the part of tradition that is the assured word of God, being established as being so due to its heavenly qualities, like as a true man of God is, even if not affirmed by men as he should be. To make oral tradition by decree is contrary to how Scripture was established, most of which took place b there was a church in Rome, and to make it equal to it is to essentially add to the canon, and makes the magisterium like inspired writers, even if they deny being on that level.

The prophecy given Anna Marie is being fulfilled, the awful rejection of Mary because of the revolters.

You have already been reproved by your own on this, and blithely dismiss evidence to the contrary in order to promote your own ideas, and i have lots to do. May God grant you grace unto repentance. (2Tim 2:25)

167 posted on 04/17/2012 9:36:33 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: daniel1212; boatbums; metmom; RnMomof7; Iscool; caww; smvoice; presently no screen name; Quix

The four Marian Dogmas are true and so is the 5th and final Marian Dogma to be proclaimed soon.

The “woman” Jesus addressed at Cana is Mary

The “woman” Jesus addressed from the Cross is Mary

“His” “Ark” of the New Covenant in Heaven is Mary

The queen is the mother of the king in Holy Scripture, in the New Covenant, she is Mary

The “woman” clothed with the Sun and the moon under her feet with a “crown” of twelve stars is Mary

The “woman” who brought forth the man-child is Mary

There is a secondary meaning for the “woman” in Revelation Chapter 12, they are the faithful, the Church.


185 posted on 04/18/2012 8:23:07 PM PDT by stpio
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