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To: boatbums

It can’t be both ways, you go back and forth saying the Church has no authority and is wrong then search to show the Church agrees with you. Another poster was doing the same.

I kinda have an idea of who you “esteem” as your authority.

You said ~
The Bible, if it was hers, the Church “WOULD HAVE made sure it was stored away in secret”. This goes against the well known protest that is what she did? It’s history, hand printed, not until the invention of the printing press was
there much access, there were only a few Bibles.

~ ~ ~

“Yes, Jerome was wrong in this part and we have the Hebrew version with which to KNOW that.”...

~ ~ ~

Who is “we?” It’s been a long time, most of the original
writings are gone, so which “part” of the Hebrew do you all
still have and what of the rest of Scripture? Do you not have to trust St. Jerome for that? Yes you do.

You “cut and paste” is a long read, what is your point? Is it, the Vulgate is in error again? That’s silly, God wouldn’t allow His written Word to be wrong, that makes the oral passed down first from the Apostles wrong. No way.

You put Martin Luther’s errors in bold. Catholics follow the correct Old Testament Canon, the Alexandrian OT Canon, Protestants follow the Hebrew. It’s your loss.

St. Jerome wasn’t sure on some of the Pope Damasus’ choices
for the Canon but he obediently translated them and now
in modern history, the world sees Pope Damasus was correct,
ie: The Dead Sea Scrolls.

Change on two things and you’ll make it through the
Great Tribulation, all in God’s will. Believe in the Real Presence, the most Holy Eucharist and speak to Lord’s mother in prayer, she is your mother too. You will feel closer to her just like you do when you speak to Our Lord.

The Blessed Trinity has given Mary all graces to dispense,
she will help you if you ask. It makes Our Lord very happy. Mary has influence with Him. I give you example, He wasn’t ready but at His mother’s request, He did as she requested at the wedding of Cana. That’s a teaching moment
in the Gospel for us all.


164 posted on 04/17/2012 8:31:16 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
It can’t be both ways, you go back and forth saying the Church has no authority and is wrong then search to show the Church agrees with you. Another poster was doing the same.

The purpose of showing YOU YOUR church's opinions about certain things is to show YOU that THEY disagree with YOU. Got it? The Roman Catholic Church is not my authority because they have erred on many doctrines that were communicated to us from the Apostles in their writings (the New Testament of the Holy Bible). These were truths taught to them by Jesus Christ himself, both while he was physically present with them on earth and also when he ascended back to heaven. The "Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit". Sorry, but no pretend mystic or prophet can supersede what God has stated in his word.

Change on two things and you’ll make it through the Great Tribulation, all in God’s will. Believe in the Real Presence, the most Holy Eucharist and speak to Lord’s mother in prayer, she is your mother too. You will feel closer to her just like you do when you speak to Our Lord.

I don't need to change on anything I believe for the simple fact that I have already placed my trust in Jesus Christ and have received him as my Savior and Lord. He is ALWAYS present with us and participating in the Lord's Supper is done in "remembrance of Him", just like he said. According to Scripture, I am born again into the family of God never to be cast out, lost or separated from His love. The Tribulation is no threat to me because all believers in Christ will be taken up before this "Time of Jacob's Trouble" starts. Read I Thessalonians 4 and 5. I do not need to pray TO Mary because I pray directly to Jesus Christ, who is the ONLY mediator between God and man. Mary is NOT my mother but a sister in Christ like all other female believers. "The Blessed Trinity" has NOT given Mary "all graces to dispense". That is a false doctrine dreamed up by Mary worshippers as no Apostle spoke of such things in Scripture. Don't you think if that was the truth, God would have seen fit to say it in Scripture?

Go ahead and believe what you want, your preaching has NO effect because I am already redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ. Something I pray you may one day be assured of as well.

166 posted on 04/17/2012 9:01:06 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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