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To: boatbums

Spending your time searching Catholic writing to disprove
what the Church teaches. It’s comical and kinda sad.
Some of your Catholic quotes show the “woman” is Mary. You’re so defiant.

NO!,says boatbums and other non-Catholic Christians here. The “woman” that gave birth to the man-child Jesus is a country not Mary. Sorry, you’re wrong.

Your list, the first, why in Heavens do you post the
Septuagint? Martin Luther rejected the Septuagint. He
wasn’t guided by God. The Septuagint was the Old Testament
Canon Our Lord and the Apostles most quoted from, it’s
the Alexandrian Canon.

I am going with John Salsa, remember what he said and since I can’t read Latin, I’ll trust the English version (the DR) of the first Bible, the Latin Vulgate. I trust St. Jerome. In a way, you do too, without him, you would not have a Bible. And thank you to Pope Damasus, he decided the Canon.

This is what St. Jerome translated from the original writings ~

I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

footnote to explain in the Douay-Rheims Bible:

[15] She shall crush: Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin: others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same: for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent’s head. http://www.drbo.org/

God bless you boatbums,


161 posted on 04/17/2012 7:25:35 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
Spending your time searching Catholic writing to disprove what the Church teaches. It’s comical and kinda sad. Some of your Catholic quotes show the “woman” is Mary. You’re so defiant. NO!,says boatbums and other non-Catholic Christians here. The “woman” that gave birth to the man-child Jesus is a country not Mary. Sorry, you’re wrong.

What is TRULY sad and not at all "comical" is your ignorance of Holy Scripture and your insistence that "you" are right and EVERY OTHER theologian is wrong. Do you have a degree in Theology? Have you studied what you believe and why you believe it or do you simply swallow whatever you're told and trust "they" are right? If Mary is really the one spoken of in Revelation 12, then you must address the "woman in this text is suffering from the stain of original sin. The Vatican approved NAB Bible’s footnotes state this fact, “Because of Eve’s sin, the woman gives birth in distress and pain (Gn 3, 16).” Also from another Vatican approved Bible we learned that “this is not the Blessed Virgin…By accommodation the Church applies this verse to the Blessed Virgin.” Therefore, a choice must be made; either Mary was Immaculately Conceived or she is the woman in revelation, she cannot be both." (http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/roman-catholic-maryology-mary-roman-catholicism-part-8-immaculately-conceived)

Since no one seems to be able to break through to you about this point, nor the truth that it is JESUS that defeats Satan, I'll not continue to try. You really should go back and read the comments from others on this thread and think about it a bit more. No one here has said Mary is unimportant. No one here has said Mary did not play a part in the salvation of humanity. No one here has disrespected Mary. What you have done is construct a theology based upon a mistranslation of ONE verse and then parlayed that into an interpretation of other verses all in the effort to glorify Mary and impart to her powers that nowhere in Scripture is she given them.

My main intent in adding my thoughts on this thread is to warn people against false prophets who tempt them to place their trust and hopes in someone who CANNOT save them. Only Jesus Christ is our Savior. ONLY faith in Him and his sacrifice for our sins grants us eternal life. If anyone is telling you differently, run away, it is THEY that are leading you astray.

You started this thread with a supposed "prophecy" from a woman who claims to be speaking for Mary, the mother of Jesus. In it, "she" says that half of the Catholics will follow a false prophet and, presumably, into their doom. Other than being a relater of this message, what are you really trying to do? If the prophet is correct, there's nothing you can do to stop it. If you somehow could, then the prophesy would be proven wrong, right?

One final thing...I do not hate Mary, nor do I hold any bad feelings towards her. She is not responsible for things others claim for her. As a matter of fact, I think she probably despises the way some people exalt her and place her at the center of their worship - and MANY do. I think she is just as grateful as all other believers that Jesus Christ came to save sinners. She even said, "My heart rejoices in God my savior.". I think it would be a good thing if people started placing their worship on who really deserves ALL glory and honor and praise - Jesus Christ. It is to Him that, one day, EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tongue confess that HE is LORD to glory of God the Father. Mary will be the first among them!

163 posted on 04/17/2012 8:17:30 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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