The term “woman” is not relavent, what, it’s the whole point!!
Please try to follow the argument. I did not say “woman” was not relevant, else i would not have provided how it is used, but i was referring to the weight you place upon how often it is used in Rv. 12, which is irrelevant, that is not determinative of who is represents.
The “woman”, is reference to a female and is written eight times in Revelation Chapter 12. This is ridiculous to have to repeat. The masculine or “it” are not there.
Of course the reference is to a female, for as pointed out, Israel was referred to as female, (Is. 54:1-6; Jer. 3:20; Ezek.16:8-14; Hosea 2:19-20) And the church is also referred to as female, and both fit the descriptions more than Mary, of whom nothing is said about her being crowned (the giving of which to the saints does not occur will the Lord's return: 2Tim. 4:8; Rv. 11:8)
For again, in Joseph’s dream, (Gn 37:9-11) “the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.” The sun represented Jacob (Israel) and the moon Rachel, of which Jacob said, “Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?” The 12 stars on the woman’s head represents the 12 patriarchs, “and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.” (Rm. 9:5) And which was and will be persecuted, but God keeps her through it. This view is more fully articulated here: http://www.eternal-productions.org/PDFS/Revelation12Woman.pdf
Thus while you attack us as being biased, regardless of the evidence we bring forth, and assert that we need to submit to the teaching of Rome, yet you are so committed to your view that you cannot objectively allow any other, even though your own church that you promote does not infallibly define it!
You write a book in reply each time daniel, enough already, the fact is you are wrong friend. St. Jerome knew what he was translating. The Bible is inerrant. You can’t justify the Protestant changes to Scripture. You are not to add or take away says the Bible.
This is why no will discuss Revelation 12:13 or reply to why Our Lord keeps addressing Mary as the “woman.”
(Rev 12:13) “And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman WHICH brought forth the man child.”
Daniel said:
“That is easy, Israel as the people of God brought forth Christ, Mary being an Israelite, and to which nation the sun and moon typology fits, and the church became the “Israel of God” (Gal. 6:16) which the devil is the adversary of, as Peter says. (1Pt. 5:8)”
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Israel did not bring forth Christ just because you say it. Israel is a nation not a “woman.” The “woman WHO (it doesn’t say WHICH, another change in a Bible translation) brought forth the man child, Our Lord is His mother. You’re forgetting or rejecting again, Mary is the devil’s adversary. God speaks to the devil in Rev 14 and then in verse 15 God states ~ I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed:...
The church did not become the “Israel of God”, this is the New Covenant. Christ’s Church (singular) is the Roman Catholic Church. Protestantism rejected and broke away from the Church.