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To: Colofornian

If conservatives here align with the MSM and demorats and let Mormons be pillaged this election cycle, expect it to happen to born again christians next cycle, then catholics, and then we’ll be left with a godless socialist country.


3 posted on 03/30/2012 8:18:17 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop; All
If conservatives here align with the MSM and demorats and let Mormons be pillaged this election cycle, expect it to happen to born again christians next cycle, then catholics, and then we’ll be left with a godless socialist country.

How long have you suffered from basic discernment issues?

Here you use the same kind of reasoning used by Lutheran pastor Martin Niemoller (ALL: Niemoller was a Lutheran leader who opposed Nazism) as if it's somehow some reason we should all be defending Mormons.

I don't think you can use Niemolleresque logic here as such a springboard. Why? Because the Mormons have pillaged Lutherans and the rest of the Christian community, including the Catholics you just referenced.

For example, Mormons have pillaged Christians/Catholics as "apostates" and "corrupt"...here...for precise examples, see this chart below:

Snapshot of Joseph Smith’s Slanderous Invectives vs. Christian Sects

Mormon Source

[Note: Most of these are Mormon ‘scriptures'. In fact, First three rows below are Lds 'scripture' & therefore cannot be rug-swept any more than a Jew might try to take three commandments off of the very tablets of stone Moses brought down from the mountain]
“...which of all the sects was right… must join NONE of them, for they were ALL WRONG… those professors were ALL CORRUPT…” Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
...“which of all the sects was right…ALL their CREEDS were an ABOMINATION in his sight…they teach for doctrines the commandments of MEN…” Joseph Smith – History vv. 18-19. – Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price
Mormon church the only ‘Christ-sanctioned’ church on earth: “…the foundation of this [Mormon] church…the ONLY true and living church on the face of the whole earth [Obvious ‘scorched earth’ implication: All other churches are false and dead] Lds “scripture” Doctrines & Covenants 1:30
Direct question asked of Joseph Smith: 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?" Answer from Lds "prophet" Joseph Smith: 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119 [Not “scripture” – but still publicly spoken by the Mormon ‘living prophet’ and published by a later Mormon ‘living prophet,’ Joseph Fielding Smith – via a publisher owned by the Mormon church – Deseret News Press, 1938]
“In 1952…the first official proselyting plan was sent to missionaries throughout the world…It included seven missionary discussions that emphasized…[four topics, one of them being]…THE APOSTASY and Restoration…” [This makes it almost 60 years that Mormon church missionaries, now numbering 52,000, have formally emphasized in its training & door to door saturation a priority in bashing the worldwide Christian church as “apostates” (100% AWOL)] Our Heritage: A Brief History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints p. 116, 1996

So...MrShoop...when can we see you chastise the Mormons for the way they have treated Christians/Catholics?

Haven't the Mormons been aligning with the liberals way too long in lambasting Christians??? Or are you two-faced & hypocritical on this?

Besides, MrSharp, the key to using Niemolleresque type of logic is knowing when to apply it...Otherwise, what you get is:

When the Law enforcement folks came for the Planned Parenthood counselors who were telling clients how to get around rape & incest laws,
I remained silent;
For I was not trying to protect a rapist or incest perp.
When they locked up the educators who slept with local students;
I remained silent;
For I was not an abusive educator
When they came for the polygamists marrying underage girls in mock marriage ceremonies;
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a polygamist.
When they came for the abusive Roman Catholic priests
I did not speak out;
For I was not such a priest
When they came for me, even though I was pedophile-free, there was no more pedophiles left to speak out in my defense for my due process & constitutional rights.

Oh, and while we're over-extending Niemolleresque logic here...if a Mormon Smithesque "prophet" comes along in the future, and says Mormons can perform temple proxy honeymoon "endowments" in the future (especially for the more well-endowed)...I guess you won't be able to complain about misusing Niemoller...since you're already guilty of that...

I mean, MrShoop, should you ever find a Mormon bride & if some Mormon dude becomes a honeymoon proxy "stand-in" for ya....somebody could use that Niemoller analogy on you!

Here's what I mean:
First they came for the dead to baptize them,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't dead.

Then they came for the dead to have them married on the
other side of the veil,
and I didn't speak out because I still wasn't dead;
besides, I was already married.

Then they came for the Jewish holocaust victims,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jewish
holocaust victim.

Then they came for my bride at honeymoon time,
and the Mormons made sure no Gentiles were allowed in
the Mormon temple to speak out for me.

12 posted on 03/30/2012 8:56:36 PM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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To: MrShoop
Mormons be pillaged this election cycle

It is not Mormons who are being pillaged but Mormonism. Like most critics of Mormonism, I have several Mormon friends and I would not allow anyone to personally attack them. Their religious beliefs, like mine, are open to criticism.

15 posted on 03/30/2012 9:02:49 PM PDT by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: MrShoop
You might have a point if mormonism was in anyway related to Christianity.

For mormonism that would be godS.

44 posted on 03/31/2012 3:01:52 PM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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