When you have a quote this can mean Christ in the Psalm 69.
5 You, God, know my folly;
MY GUILT is not hidden from you.
6 Lord, the LORD Almighty,
may those who hope in you not be disgraced because of me;
may those who seek you not be put to shame because of me.
7 For I endure scorn for your sake, and shame covers my face.
8 I am a foreigner to my own family, a stranger to my own mothers children;
9 for zeal for your house consumes me, and the insults of those who insult you fall on me.
"MY GUILT IS NOT HIDDEN"
THis was used for this.
5 You, God, know my folly; my guilt is not hidden from you. 6 Lord, the LORD Almighty, may those who hope in you not be disgraced because of me; God of Israel, may those who seek you not be put to shame because of me. 7 For I endure scorn for your sake, and shame covers my face. 8 I am a foreigner to my own family, a stranger to my own mothers children; 9 for zeal for your house consumes me, and the insults of those who insult you fall on me.
Of Course. WE know HE is Not a Sinner.
"a stranger to my own mothers children;"
This is being used to say other children.
Everybody Read carefully what is presented examine it for real. Anybody can present nice neat words. But always examine.
I found this a lot about the Early Church Fathers go to the original words. Watch ourselves.
Indeed “anybody can present nice neat words,” and indeed you should “always examine,” and thus we need to watch ourselves before we or you jump to conclusions.
For as you should know, a Messianic verse is not determined by whether all of the context is about Christ, and the very Psalm you disallow as having Messianic text is quoted from by the Holy Spirit as such more than once, even if some RCs think they knew better.
See right after the text at issue where it says,
“I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother’s children. For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. “ (Psalms 69:8-9)
And which is just what the Holy spirit in Jn. 2:17 states:
“And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up. “ (John 2:17; cf. Rm. 15:3)
And there are more, for if Ps. 69:5 disallows v. 8 from speaking of Christ, as some reactionary Romans rule, then it would follow that Ps. 69:4 (They that hate me without a cause..) which is referenced in Jn. 15:25 cannot be either. And the same gospel that invokes Ps. 69:9 in applying it to Christ, also records that “His own received Him not,” “neither did His own brethren believe in Him.” (Jn. 1:11; 7:5)
In addition, while Catholics lack the extensive Scripture commentaries of evangelicals, the conservative Catholic Haydock commentary applies Ps. 69:8 to Christ as well, if not to His own siblings:
Ver. 9. Mother. This might be true with respect to some apostate Jews. But it was more fully accomplished in Christ, who was betrayed by Judas, &c. (Calmet) -— His own received him not, John i. (Berthier) haydock1859.tripod.com/id793.html
Also, contrary to your rule, Ps. 41:9 (Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me) which is confirmed (Jn. 13:18) to be prophetic of Christ, is nor disallowed as being such by v. 4 which states, I said, LORD, be merciful unto me: heal my soul; for I have sinned against thee.
But the reason Ps. 69:8 is disallowed as being prophetic of Christ is that my mother’s children is another example in which the most straight forward denotation would be the siblings of the subject.