How does that saying go:
if you’re not a liberal in your teens you have a hard heart,
if you’re a liberal in your thirties you have a soft head.
I believe John was well past thirty when he gave the interview (in Playboy as a matter of fact).
I believe Churchill said it, ... “if you are not a liberal by the time you are 25 you do not have a heart. If you are not a conservative by the time you are 35 you don’t have a brain!”
“If one is twenty and not a liberal one has no heart. If one is forty and not a conservative one has no brain.’’— Winston Churchill.