[reaganaut]

I’ve read all that, thank you very much for the links, but that is not what I was looking for.

I know the history of the doctrine probably better than most Catholics (Historian), what I am looking for is why it matters to Modern (not Medieval) Catholics.

Is it a theological hill to die on? If so, why?

[Ransomed]

“I know the history of the doctrine probably better than most Catholics (Historian)...”

Hey reaganaut, as an aside from if it was right or wrong, who was the first guy to stop believing it?

I have tried to google this before, my google fu is weak. I recall that most of the original Reformers believed it, so when did it start and who did it? Who wrote about it not being true first?

Freegards