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To: D-fendr
"I would add “basic human experience.” Calvinism results in a cosmos devoid of meaning where the human experience is an illusion."

I can't completely accept the role of "basic human experience" because too often experience is shaped or warped by human thought and error. It also leads to error in that my perception of it can be similarly distorted and would go against my need to a greater authority in these matters.

I can't completely discount Calvinists and Calvinism because I know many who sincerely love God with all of their heart and soul. I also know many Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus who are true to their concepts of God and justice. Do they err? Of course, some significantly, but we all do to one degree or another. The finite human mind is just not capable of understanding the infinite.

The Church teaches that all are called to God because that is where we all came from and that within each human heart is a void that can only be filled by God. All major religions and denominations contain a ray of light and truth and that truth is from God. It is our mission as Christians to spread the Word and help to remove the error. I have found that a sharp tongue, a cold shoulder and a crooked finger only hinder the process. As I have witnessed in my own life light can shine through even a broken and dirty window.

537 posted on 04/03/2012 5:47:00 PM PDT by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: Natural Law

Our perceptions and experience are not perfect nor unlimited. We do not have completely free will, but neither do we have no free will.

In Christian terms and experience, Christ tells us to love God and neighbor as ourself. Without free will, this commandment- and his ministry - are nonsense, absurd.

And without any free will at all, what is repentance?


538 posted on 04/03/2012 5:56:44 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Natural Law
The Church teaches that all are called to God because that is where we all came from and that within each human heart is a void that can only be filled by God. All major religions and denominations contain a ray of light and truth and that truth is from God. It is our mission as Christians to spread the Word and help to remove the error. I have found that a sharp tongue, a cold shoulder and a crooked finger only hinder the process. As I have witnessed in my own life light can shine through even a broken and dirty window.

Both are wrong.

539 posted on 04/03/2012 6:14:57 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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