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AH, so THAT date doesn't matter? The most important date of RCC, and it doesn't matter? And you're telling me to look it up? lol! How are any of the Books of the Bible dated, D-fendr? Just HOW are the dates approximated?

It's not that it's "difficult". It's that it is so hypocritical to insist one person do something, while refusing to do the same thing yourself. Can you not identify a pre-prison Epistle with the Prison Epistles? Can you not read the salutations, and content of the Epistles and understand times and seasons, who, what, where, when, and why?

But I really appreciate your reply. You have NO IDEA how much I appreciate it..

No, the date doesn’t matter. There’s no ‘before... after, Jews, Gentiles, Jesus, Paul, Peter’ in the Church theology.

The Church teaches Peter was in Rome, here’s an article debating the question:

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/was-peter-in-rome

The article is based on sources I consider authoritative on this question, Holy Scripture and writings of Church Fathers/Early Christians. I would have thought you already know what I consider authorities on different areas and matters.

>>>It’s not that it’s “difficult”. It’s that it is so hypocritical to insist one person do something, while refusing to do the same thing yourself.

Ok, so now will you reciprocate?

I think what we are seeing, and for which we can thank you, is the primary reason why the Roman Catholic Church gets the gospel so messed up. They insist that "we" are ignoring the "Gospels" in "favor" of the Pauline epistles, yet they seem to not even grasp the differences between them nor to whom the various books were directed or their intent. It is exactly because they believe the words Jesus directed specifically to Israel MUST also apply to the church that there is so much confusion. They demand that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John be the prism by which all the rest of the New Testament is read. We see it done by others, too, when they apply ALL the promises of God, including those that he gave to Israel ONLY in the Old Testament, to the church during the Age of Grace.

No wonder they dismiss the Millennial reign of Christ on earth after the end of the Tribulation - it messes up the Church being the "New Israel". Whether or not some understand the differences between Israel and the Church, it matters the most when the Gospel of the grace of God is commingled with the Gospel of the Kingdom. That's when the REAL problem of faith plus works for salvation starts out. Some people read the "Beatitudes" and insist that they are commandments of Jesus for how to go to Heaven. Then when we show that Paul teaches about the Gospel of the grace of God and state that it is NOT by our works that we are saved, we get pounded with the explanation that "The words of Jesus override the words of Paul - that mere bishop". It never seems to sink in that the ENTIRE Bible IS the word of Jesus Christ and God does not contradict himself.

I totally get what you are trying to say, but, for some, it will be like pulling teeth to get them to admit the wisdom of it simply because it has not been "blessed" by their all-knowing infallible magesterium. The same magesterium that is incapable of admitting they could ever be wrong about anything. Those that seek God's truth with all their hearts and with diligence and honesty WILL find it. Of that we can be sure. "Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth", is in there for a reason!