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To: metmom
And what about all the poor people who are being duped by Copeland? Just let them go on being deceived?

Do you know they are being duped? Did they tell you or are you spreading what you heard. What are we taught about gossip? Those poor people, as you claim, can walk out if they feel they are being deceived. They have the Word.

Who cares about them anyway? They don't have to listen to him.

Hopefully, they listen to God if they care about themselves.

Anyone who claims to speak for God and claims to proclaim the gospel OUGHT to be and come under tremendous scrutiny to protect others from being led astray by them.

Yeah, like those on this thread?

270 posted on 03/11/2012 9:09:04 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name; caww; boatbums; smvoice; CynicalBear; reaganaut; Lx

pnsn: “Do you know they are being duped? Did they tell you or are you spreading what you heard. What are we taught about gossip? Those poor people, as you claim, can walk out if they feel they are being deceived. They have the Word. “

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2856901/posts?page=76#76

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2856901/posts?page=151#151

As for Copeland......

Quote on TBN, Kenneth Copeland.....“Dogs beget dogs cats beget cats, and God beget Gods, you are little Gods.”....

.And it not surprising when we have heard such surprising statements like this one from Copeland:

” That nature is like eternal in absolute perfection. ....And that was imparted, injected into your spirit man..... And you have that imparted into you by God just the same as you imparted into your child the nature of humanity. ......Well now, you don’t have a human do you? No, you are one..... You don’t have a god in you, you are one.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2856901/posts?page=156#156

Copeland also stated BY PROPHECY stating he was speaking for Jesus Christ to the people.... ......”Don’t be disturbed when people accuse you of being God, the more you get to be like me (Jesus) the more there going to think that way of you. They crucified Me for claiming that I was God. ......But I didn’t claim I was God.... I just claimed I walked with Him and that He was in Me.... Hallelujah.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2856901/posts?page=159#159

Copeland states:

“Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively ‘confess Jesus into existence’ through their constant prophecies” ....(Kenneth Copeland, The Power of the Tongue, pp. 8-10).

He further states:

“Here’s where we’re gonna depart from ordinary church:..... Now, you see, God is injecting His Word into the earth to produce this Jesus—these faith-filled words that framed the image that’s in Him…He can’t just walk onto the earth and say, “Let it be!” because He doesn’t have the right. He had to sneak it in here around the god of this world that was blockin’ every way that he possibly could.”...... (Kenneth Copeland, The Image of God in You III (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989), audiotape #01-1403, side 2.

He continues by adding,...... “God was making promises to Jesus, and Jesus wasn’t even there. But, you see, God deals with things that are not yet as though they already were. That’s the way He gets them to come to pass.”...... (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened from the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #02-0017.)

Copeland states additionally and note the last sentence......”So before Jesus came to the earth, God spoke His Word and then spoke His Word again.... How many times did He say the Messiah was coming It was prophesied over hundreds, even thousands, of years. He kept saying, ‘He is coming. He is ‘coming..... the circumstances in the earth made it look as if there was no way He could accomplish it; but He just kept saying it. He would not be moved by what He saw.... God would not relent.” (the power of the tongue 9-10.) So here God spoke the universe into existence (which the Bible attributes to Jesus)...... but to make him a human it took a long time of confession.

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Copeland right out denies the deity of Christ here. That makes him a false prophet, a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

All I see from your response is more *blame the victim* mentality. It’s the fault of the people listening to him that they get duped because they didn’t check it out for themselves, never the fault of Copeland who is teaching known heresy.

And here many of us are, checking it out for ourselves using the Bible that you say they have to check, and we are getting castigated for it by the Copeland defenders.

Fine. Defend your teacher of heresy and don’t bother checking him out. But don’t expect the rest of us to be duped like that.


279 posted on 03/11/2012 9:44:06 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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