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Mormon church's racial history continues to haunt Romney
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| March 1, 2012
| Edward Wyckoff Williams
Posted on 03/06/2012 5:44:27 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: BlueMoose
I guess I’m not ready yet.
To: BlueMoose
here was a barber that thought that he should share his faith with his customers more than he had been doing lately. So the next morning when the sun came up and the barber got up out of bed he said, “Today I am going to witness to the first man that walks through my door.”
Soon after he opened his shop the first man came in and said, “I want a shave!” The barber said, “Sure, just sit in the seat and I’ll be with you in a moment.” The barber went in the back and prayed a quick desperate prayer saying, “God, the first customer came in and I’m going to witness to him. So give me the wisdom to know just the right thing to say to him. Amen.”
Then quickly the barber came out with his razor knife in one hand and a Bible in the other while saying “Good morning sir. I have a question for you... Are you ready to die?”
To: BlueMoose
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posted on
03/11/2012 5:56:05 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: BlueMoose
the man cries, At this rate the only way I get into heaven is by the grace of God! ..after all you can do.
64
posted on
03/11/2012 5:56:41 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: BlueMoose
65
posted on
03/11/2012 5:57:24 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: BlueMoose
Pink & delightsome, eh, BM?
66
posted on
03/11/2012 9:32:32 AM PDT
by
Colofornian
( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
To: Colofornian
67
posted on
03/11/2012 9:59:30 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
To: Elsie
Oh, what does that prove? Nothing.
Religious nut cases are funny people. They cannot prove themselves to be right before they cast others as wrong. Religion consists of no proof, so they must ignore reality and embrace fantasy. The nut cases put on their Napoleon hats and act like they are God’s agents in religious matters; they fantasize of having the great powers granted to the Inquisitors before them and enjoy their tapioca as it is spoon fed to them.
Never do they address questions posed to them. Instead, they counter attack.
“You are one of them!” A sinner! A non-believer! I’m right; you’re wrong!
Obsession is a hard emotion to overcome, as is the conceit that accompanies religious bigotry.
68
posted on
03/11/2012 8:58:36 PM PDT
by
Loud Mime
(When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)
To: Loud Mime
Oh, what does that prove? Nothing.It might 'prove' nothing; but it SHOWS that your INPUTS to this thread are not very deep, theologically speaking.
But when you state this...
They cannot prove themselves to be right before they cast others as wrong.
...you've pretty much summed up the MORMON style of proselyzing.
69
posted on
03/12/2012 4:58:49 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: magritte
I should have been more clear.
I’m well aware of the Anti-Mormon People’s Liberation Freeper Front guerrillas here.
What I meant was that the ever-tolerant Lefty press was just starting to unload on Mormonism (two lost tribes and golden tablets all).
70
posted on
03/12/2012 11:19:43 AM PDT
by
Nabber
To: Elsie
You really have a thing for Mormans, like the Nazis or the Muzzies have a thing for the Jews. Check under your bed at night - - and in the closet. They’re everywhere!
Not very deep theologically speaking? Proof does not mix with theology. I don’t speak deeply of Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck either.
I believe in good and evil - but just can’t put these religious contests like yours into the former category; they belong in the latter. Look at your company of religious zealots throughout history who claim they have been the right religion—and taken up a personal duty to chastise the non-believers. You’re not in good company.
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posted on
03/15/2012 7:36:45 PM PDT
by
Loud Mime
(When conceit and anger are part of your religion, it's a political movement, not a religion.)
To: Loud Mime
Like liberals on the forum at large, posters who are anti-religion are trolls on the Religion Forum - particularly when all they bring to a thread are ad hominems.
To: Loud Mime
You really have a thing for Mormans...Sure do!
Their conscripted ARMY is out in force; in the streets and at your door, selling their lies and HERESY to the unsuspecting and ignorant.
Back on the home front, they raise up more good little soldiers from the fruit of their loins; dutifully filling their little minds with the 'truth' of MORMONism.
I believe in good and evil -
So?
So do the DEMONS that JESUS spoke about; and THEY tremble.
Look at your company of religious zealots throughout history who claim they have been the right religionand taken up a personal duty to chastise the non-believers.
Speaking of chasizing...
Are you one of these people who will IGNORE what MORMON leaders think about CHRISTIANITY; or will you take this opportunity to chastise them?
Or will you ACCEPT what they have said?
It's right in this thread - #33.
What say ye?
73
posted on
03/16/2012 4:23:57 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Elsie
Obsession is a hard thing to cure. Religious conceit, with its resulting judgementalism and hatred, brings out the worst behavior in humans. I studied the Spanish Inquisition and visited two death camps in Germany. My family is from Poland, where camps such as Sobibor still ring in the memories of people who understand what hatred and conceit can do.
I’ve told you that you have never proven your case - no religion can prove their case - the Mormans, the Catholics, and worst, the evangelical christians, can’t prove anything. But your conceit has you trudging along spitting your vile judgements at others. I stopped going to any church because each one houses bigots like you.
I remember my biblical lessons of Luke and the words of the Lord’s prayer. Those must not agree with your ego. You see, this obsession of yours is not about religion and its not about God, it’s about YOU. No matter what I question, you return to your obsession - which proves my first point in this posting.
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posted on
03/17/2012 9:25:42 AM PDT
by
Loud Mime
(Prove it or STFU)
To: Loud Mime; Elsie
Ive told you that you have never proven your case - no religion can prove their case - the Mormans, the Catholics, and worst, the evangelical christians, cant prove anything. But your conceit has you trudging along spitting your vile judgements at others. I stopped going to any church because each one houses bigots like you. You might be mixing up Elsie and this guy:
![](http://www.politifake.org/image/political/1110/if-i-had-a-dollar-capitalism-michael-moore-fatass-socialist-politics-1318171892.jpg)
Elsie is passionate, not obsessed. I think that he believes much the same regarding Jehovah's Witnesses, Oneness Pentecostals and the various other nonChristian groups who claim to be Christian.
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posted on
03/17/2012 10:32:07 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
To: Loud Mime
Ive told you that you have never proven your caseWhat is my 'case'?
I posted FACTS directly from top MORMON leaders. Quotes; DAMNING ones if Rush had said them; and yet you choose to continue to remain silent.
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posted on
03/17/2012 12:36:35 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Loud Mime
I remember my biblical lessons of Luke and the words of the Lords prayer. Do you 'remember' anything else?
Acts 18:11
So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.
Romans 15:4
For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
Romans 16:17
I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
1 Corinthians 4:17
For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
1 Corinthians 11:2
2. I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings, just as I passed them on to you.
Ephesians 4:14-15
14. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
15. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
2 Thessalonians 2:15
So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
2 Thessalonians 3:6
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us.
1 Timothy 1:3-4
3. As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
4. nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
1 Timothy 1:7
They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
1 Timothy 2:7
And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
1 Timothy 4:1-2
1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
2. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
1 Timothy 4:6
If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.
1 Timothy 4:11
Command and teach these things.
1 Timothy 6:3-5
3. If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4. he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
2 Timothy 1:13
What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
2 Timothy 2:15-17
15. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
16. Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
17. Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17. so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
Titus 1:11
They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
Titus 2:1
You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
Titus 2:15
These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.
Hebrews 13:9
Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
2 Peter 2:1-3
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
2 John 1:10
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.
77
posted on
03/17/2012 12:37:59 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Loud Mime
I stopped going to any church because each one houses bigots like you. So judgemental; aren't you!
Hebrews 10:25 kjv
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
78
posted on
03/17/2012 12:39:53 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: MarkBsnr
LOL, you said it - I didn’t.
79
posted on
03/19/2012 12:20:34 PM PDT
by
Loud Mime
(Liberalism is a socialist disease)
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