Posted on 03/04/2012 2:05:37 PM PST by NYer
Do you know who started this *religion of peace* version of Islamic history?
Arab supremacists? Once conquered, muslim’s destroyed everthing that was considered jahiliyya (not conforming to Islam). Christian monks and Jewish scribes translated acceptable material into Arabic, giving credit to Arabs for saving ‘knowledge’. Academics, as stated above earlier, accepted at face value, this deceptively presented information (think myth of harmonious al-Andalus) without consideration for the inherently violent nature of Islamic hegemony.
And a belated reaction at that.
“No culture has the ever cornered the market on evil’’. Really? Nazi Germany did a good job and Islam has been hard at it for 14 centuries. Christianity has liberated millions. When did Islam ever fight a war to liberate anyone?
The promise under the Old Covenant and the New Covenant was a Saviour, for the Jew and the Gentiles.
“For God not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved throught His Son Jesus Christ.” (John 3:17)
Everything about His Son was good news to us sinners:
“All we like sheep have gone astray, and the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.” (Isaiah 53:6)
In 1 Corinthians 5:21 we read: “For He[God] hath made Him[Jesus] to be sin for us, who knew no sin that we might be made the righteous of God in Him.”
‘’...Islamic countries are such sh!tholes.’’< That’s why I call them ‘’worthless Saracen bastards’’.
It is hard to believe that Christian monks could produce benign histories of Islam since many of them lived during the times of the Muslim invasions of Europe and knew how brutal the Muslims could be. There were scholars and monks all through the middle ages, even the dark ages. It is not as if later scholars had to look up Muslim histories to know what went on in those days. My hunch is that probably the anti-Christian biases of the age of reason began to show the Christian world as evil and backward while the *other*—the Islamic world had to be portrayed as a paradise, comparable to the ‘noble savage myth. Anything that was not European had to be better than European culture. This anti-west attitude has grown with time and is now a huge part of western thinking on the left. I am just guessing but it wouldn’t suprise me if this glamorizing of Islam did not begin at about the time of the enlightenment.
Yes, but you know suffering for Christ and the truth is the real rightiousness, it will test our spirits medal...I too however do not look forward to the meltdown at our feet...but we have to realize one day we need God, much more than anything else, our ways are not His, and through all of our sins and limitations and dealings with fallen realities we become children of the most High in Christ..Teach us what we need to know Lord, give us strength in this walk..
The Christian and Jewish scribes were among the few educated, multi-lingual/literate survivors of Islamic conquest whose skills enabled their survival under intensely humiliating circumstances. Many societies disintegrated under such pressure.
You have overstated the obvious. I know all about the evils of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and all the historical evil ones you did NOT mention. There actually have been evil monsters all through history. Obviously you haven't read much of the history of humanity or you wouldn't point out only ONE monster. Also, there were cultures, not just individuals, who performed evil for a long time. But you wouldn't know much about them either, I guess, since you point out only ONE such person/culture.
I did not, additionally, say that Islam ever fought a war to liberate anyone. See if you can actually figure out what I wrote, not what you might have THOUGHT I wrote.
I also ended up saying: The HUGE difference with Islam, Christianity and Hinduism (the three largest faiths in our world) is that we Christians had/have/will always have Jesus. He elevated the status of women (still commodities in many places) and of all humans, even slaves. Life is short; Jesus gave us His life for our sins. How blessed we are for His gift.
Thus, I elevated Christianity above the other two.
But, NOOOO, you decided to obssess and excoriate on only the FIRST line of my post.
Learn to read the entire post, THEN comment, or just shut up and leave me alone.
Since MOST of human history happened before there was recorded history, one can only imagine all the evil done by people who never recorded their history.
It started out with Cain killing Abel, brother killing brother. They were a template for the rest of our history, weren't they?
One can only imagine the horrors humanity will perform in the future. We won't change as a human race and can only save ourselves individually through Jesus Christ. Nothing will change...until the good Lord ends it all.
Both of you: discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Fine. Got it. Point of fact is I’m not telling him how to pray.
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