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To: upchuck

“I’m not a Catholic but I wish the church would grow some cojones. I was heartened by their attitude towards the nobamacare contraception debacle.”

This story indicates why Obama has nothing to fear from the “Catholic vote”; it is not a bloc, and the hierarchy was in bed with him until he publicly discredited them. Until their religious exemption was removed, they had no problem with their flock being mandated to buy insurance which in most cases included contraceptives (including abortifacients). The Catholic hierarchy (in the US) played a role in Obama’s election through their inaction; any messages from Rome were well watered down by the time they reached the people in the pews (where any message was sent at all).

Someday the Catholic Church will realize that their donation fall in proportion to increases in taxes paid to Caesar.


55 posted on 03/02/2012 2:57:45 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
"Until their religious exemption was removed, they had no problem with their flock being mandated to buy insurance which in most cases included contraceptives (including abortifacients). "

This is not a Fed vs. Catholic issue. There are millions more of us who have the conviction against paying for other people's moral . . . or immoral, as the case may be . . . choices.

My wife and I made phone calls to our U.S. senators again, just prior to the failed Blunt amendment vote, and once again registered our objection to the purchase of these insurances on the grounds of our religious faith, and we are no where near being Catholic.

Ministers, by the way, who do so within two years of being ordained by their (any) church, may opt completely out of the Social Security system for the same religious convictions. This is PRECEDENT for opting out of "Obama Care."

Of course, we believe that ANY believer with the same convictions as their ministers (and, isn't THAT the idea behind the ministry ??? . . . leading their flock ???) should have the same exemption available, to opt completely out of the Social Security mess. It kind of lends a justification for "ordaining" all of the members of our church. Some ministers, in fact, who were not aware of the opt-out rule for ministers within the two years after ordination, get RE-ORDAINED so that they can opt out.

FOR this reason (that of objecting to paying for other people's moral or immoral choices), and many other reasons, we often remind our elected representatives of our conscientious objection of participation in Obama Care.

57 posted on 03/02/2012 3:20:29 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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