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To: NoDRodee

There is also the verse 5 below,
He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

Titus 3
New King James Version (NKJV)

3 Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be ready for every good work, 2 to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men. 3 For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.


113 posted on 02/22/2012 12:39:02 PM PST by bvmtotustuus (totus tuus Blessed Virgin Mary)
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To: bvmtotustuus

Another scripture is : Gal 3:27

26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.


114 posted on 02/22/2012 12:47:19 PM PST by bvmtotustuus (totus tuus Blessed Virgin Mary)
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To: bvmtotustuus
Agree, nothing about Baptism conflicts with the verse you provided:

4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,

The only time baptism is referred to as a work, it is referred to as a work of God not man.

Colossians 2:
Col 2:9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority; 11 and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ; 12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God , who raised Him from the dead.

This verse shows baptism:

1. You are buried with Him

2. Raised up with him

Faith = the one being baptized

Work = of God

It is God who washes away the sin, it is us who have faith he could do that. Baptism is NOT a work to justify our salvation through a system of perfect law keeping, Baptism is men having faith that God/Jesus can wash away our sins.

Acts 2:38 - Repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of sin, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit

Baptism is no more a work then Faith, Repentance

All the following verses talk about Baptism specifically in the context of salvation. In fact they all show it come before salvation.

Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Romans 6:4; Acts 22:16 and 1 Peter 3:21

Look at water baptism as a point in time when God washes away your sins. Don't look at it as a work or anything your doing to EARN your salvation, but as a way to receive God's grace and forgiveness of sins.
116 posted on 02/22/2012 2:19:31 PM PST by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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